Note in advance: I didn't use "fucking" to express an emotion but the intensity of my statement. Don't misread it.
Imagine me talking with a calm voice. Except for the caps parts where you can imagine me shout it out loud, still unemotional, though.
In reality people do the same. Whether people are glorified animals or actually a bit more than animals is hard to tell. I haven't met many people who actually acted like they have their own will. All I have seen a people driven by emotions, fears and/or instincts with the delusion that they chose to do that or that they had actual reasons not to do something. Don't believe me? Here's an example:
Can you right now consciously walk out the door, go up to a woman and tell her you want to have sex with her? (Just one of the most banal things to do that come to my mind right now.) No, because all your emotions will tell you not to and you will listen. You can give me any (and I mean literally any) bullshit excuse here why you won't do it and I will tell you it's all bullshit, because you're just afraid of what might happen (whether good or bad, I can almost 100% promise that you won't get slapped). Your emotions don't allow you to make that choice. Or better said, your emotions are trying their very best to prevent you from making that choice. Your logical mind will follow and will make up any kind of stupid excuse not to do it. Heck, you will even tell yourself shit like she's too tall or it's too hot/cold or her nose is too long or you don't like her shoes. I can list you a million excuses right here. And if you act against your emotions anyway, you will feel bad in form of feeling nervous, shaking, etc. and all that other shit. How much choice do you really have?
It all actually makes sense. You probably heard those wise sayings a million times, but the next time you hear one of them, consider what you are being told. e.g. "Courage is not the same as not feeling fear, it is feeling the fear and acting anyway." This can be applied to the example I just gave you. Right there. Or anything else related to conquering one's fears. Act against your emotions, because you DO have a choice. (winkio would agree with me on the whole choice thingy, we talked about that a few months back. IDK about the rest, never bothered to ask him.)
One thing that nobody here understands is that my view used to be like yours. My current perspective has evolved from that mixed with lots of experience over the years. And now I know that I used to be so fucking wrong. I don't know if I am right at this moment, but I believe in it and I am ready to stand up for what I believe in. It doesn't mean that you are wrong (or I used to be wrong). It just means that I really believe that you guys are so fucking wrong. I believe that people are obsessed with "controlling" the physical and materialism that they don't realize it's our minds that makes us human and tell us apart from animals. Sexuality is physical, not mental, the pure act of sex is physical. There is nothing transcendental in sex. It's just sex, it's an act of reproduction and for our species (and dolphins as well!) an act of giving and receiving pleasure. It is our gift to be conscious and to choose beyond our emotions (what we subconsciously learned through our life). Though, we probably shouldn't ever choose beyond our instincts (what is hardwired into our genes, which I consider hunger, sexuality, etc.), because this brings really intense consequences with it. Don't believe me? Don't eat anything for 15 days. Go ahead, do it. Go against your "instinct" and see what happens. Analogically do what I just told you before, go up to a woman and tell her that. What happened? Nothing. She will probably say that she has a boyfriend (to get rid of you, not necessarily that it's true), that she first has to get to know someone a bit, she usually doesn't do that so quickly (yeah, right), etc. But I can guarantee you that nothing bad will happen if you just act politely (e.g. you say "Excuse me. I saw you from over there and I thought you were really attractive. I wanted to ask you if you would sleep with me.") BTW, chances are that she will agree.
In any case, our subconscious is a useful tool for survival, e.g. so we avoid fire after the first time we got burnt. But we aren't animals, survival isn't really an issue anymore. Instead our subconscious has been filled up bullshit. This is something called social conditioning, look it up. It's a very interesting topic in general. Social conditioning (or programming or "bad" programming how I like to call it) is what makes us do most the things we do. It's the thing that tells us sex is a bad thing, that sex is a shameful act and all that other crap. In a secluded society (like some tribes in Africa), sex is nothing special. People run around naked, because it's not a big deal. Sexuality is normal, nothing special. We are the ones that are messed up, not them. >.<
I'm not saying everything in social conditioning is bad, but do you consider not being able to go outside and seriously ask a woman politely for sex just for the fuck of it is a good thing? Sorry, but I don't believe that. It. Is. Just. Sex. Nothing more, nothing less. It's an urge, driven by an instinct even weaker than hunger.
What also tells us apart from animals are that we are not beasts. Also, there is a difference between moral and ethic. And if you take sex out of the equation, suddenly things become less complicated by one whole magnitude (maybe even by several, IDK). You can have a lot of sex and still be ethical about it.
Sex is always valued as something important, that's why people get hurt. Sex doesn't hurt people, other people do (except for the really kinky ones := ). The moral problem is mostly related to pregnancy. If somebody doesn't watch out and makes a woman pregnant, it's immoral to leave her all by herself, because it's a bad thing to do. People then accuse sex of being the problem instead of the person itself. Just because one idiot isn't able to fucking stand up to his mistake and take responsibility, the whole society starts viewing sex as something bad and shameful. One would think that as the times change and sex now becomes more acceptable, things and the view on sex would change. Instead things just got worse and everybody is more obsessed with sex than ever. IDK how the commercial breaks are in the US, but here the commercial breaks are a bit above 5 minutes every half hour. The chance of a commercial break going by without seeing at least 3 commercials involving sex in some form (whether it's a beer commercial, a commercial for some stupid anti-aging cream, girls running around in bikinis showing off how fun, sexy and tasty the new Fanta is or whatever crap the ad managers can come up with) is absolutely zero. Men go out and see a gorgeous woman. What happens? THEY FUCKING HIDE (sometimes literally). Why? Because they have been socially conditioned to believe that beautiful women are confident and powerful and whatever crap you can come up with. And they are afraid that they aren't good enough for her. FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, IT'S JUST A WOMAN. She also eats, sleeps and takes a shit, just like you and me. Worse, the pretty ones are the most insecure, because their whole life people have been telling them how pretty they are. They never ever came to a conclusion about themselves, their whole confidence is based on how other people tell them how pretty they are (BTW, try taking that away and watch them go nuts D: ). It's a truly astonishing and saddening sight how much damage society can do to the mind of an individual. It's probably on par with brainwashing. Basically: pretty woman = sex = something valuable = fear of losing something valuable = feeling lots of crappy emotions for not being able to talk to her, etc. Sex is regarded as something that is very valuable which is just plain wrong. Look at animals. They have no problems with sex. Are they happy? Probably yes, because we people are fucking over-complicating everything unnecessarily. It's just sex.
Please tell me that all these things I am telling you are not true and that I am making all of this shit up.
You are still so fucking wrong.
I've been there, I should know.
EDIT: God, I love this shit. Maybe I'll learn something new or come to a new conclusion.
I'll move this topic to ID now, because it's becoming kind of crowded here. o.o
EDIT: I've worked hard to develop a view so different from everybody else. It's not what I intended to, it just came to happen while I was searching for some truth in the world and in life. I can see the fucking matrix.