Quote from: SBR* on January 06, 2012, 12:28:03 pm
Quote from: Blizzard"It's ok to steal a girlfriend if it's not too much effort, but otherwise it's not ok."
In this case, effort =/= trouble. With effort, I mean the persuasion and convincing of the girl, in which the girl is the keyword. I'm sorry if I was unclear .
LMAO! Now I know that you're totally on the wrong track. You can't convince or persuade a girl to love you, women don't work that way. That is completely impossible. I know that this is an absolute statement, but I know it's true.
Quote from: SBR* on January 06, 2012, 12:28:03 pm
Hmmm... I see. Well, the thing is, I don't think case 2 is 'stealing'. IMO, stealing is 'forcefully' (not literally) taking, thus putting effort into it. You step up to her and do your pick-up line things, whatever the heck you do, and she 'immediately' falls in love with you; she already has decided to leave her boyfriend for you. That's the girl's primary choice.
That's just an illusion. There are no magical pickup lines that do all the work for you. You do have control over whether she falls in love with you or not to an extent, but this still isn't up to you in the end. And besides, it's a process. Falling in love doesn't happen in 5 seconds.
If she loved her boyfriend really, she wouldn't cheat. If you are better than her boyfriend, chances are high that she will cheat, especially if she has fallen in love with you more than she is with her boyfriend. At that point she already wants it and it's just up to you to decide whether you want it and take it all the way. Obviously you can't do that with logic either, you can't convince her. She'll keep lying to herself that she's faithful and she will blame you afterwards. "It's your fault, you knew she had a boyfriend!" That's bullshit, it takes two and she's just rationalizing her part to get rid of the responsibility. Of course, I personally couldn't care less how she handles it. If she didn't want to do it, she wouldn't have done it. That's when I realized the world is full of hypocrites. >.< I probably am still a hypocrite myself to an extent, but I am working on making it smaller and smaller.
Quote from: SBR* on January 06, 2012, 12:28:03 pm
EDIT: I'd also like to note that I respect your opinion too, Blizz. One 'bad' thing - in my point of view, at least - doesn't make someone good or bad, after all.
Yeah, good and bad are just perspectives after all. Something that society views as bad doesn't necessarily have to be bad. Fact is that there are way more shades of grey than there are extremes (which are good and bad obviously).
EDIT: Oh shit, there are posts I didn't notice. :=
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@brendan_pr: I agree with your long post about relationships. People are like that.
@Sub: Well, currently I don't want a long term relationship either way so it doesn't matter much to me. Obviously I should consider whether a girl who left her boyfriend for me is trustworthy. As I said, it doesn't really matter much to me as I'm not looking for anything serious.
@brendan_pr (again): Sub is right. As a matter of fact, I can name several active people here at the forum that I wouldn't call nerds. Those include winkio, me, Sub, Niche, etc. I used to have a saying for myself: "I'm not a programmer who gets girls. I'm a seducer who can program." xD I mean, I'm not pulling this stuff out of my ass after all. I'm basing it on experience. The difference between reading something or talking about something and actually going through it is huge.
And I don't think we're classifying love here. We're just talking about relationships, stealing girlfriends and shit. xD I think I'll move this into ID.