Started by Blizzard, April 23, 2012, 03:19:43 pm
Quote from: Subsonic_Noise on April 23, 2012, 07:38:41 pmMeh. I don't agree with either of both extremes. I'm not what's decribed in the video and I'm not the oh-so-idealized manly man, I'm a healthy mix of both, and perfectly happy with it. I support feminism (I'm talking reasonable feminism here, not "Oh god skyscrapers are symbols for penises") and see people as equal and give them respect regardless of gender. People are worrying about things like this far too much. Some men are gonna be submissive, and some women will, and from my point of view there's no way someone -has- to behave. If a man is a so-called pussy and doesn't get laid because of that, it's his thing. If he wants to change that to get laid, he can, and if he doesn't, that's perfectly fine. I don't think there's anything wrong with men acting femine either. I know some that do and they are perfectly fine people.To stop ranting and sum up what I'm trying to say, people are making too much fuzz about how others -should- or -should not- behave according to their gender. It doesn't matter, and it doesn't hurt you. Behave whatever you want to behave like, and allow others the same right.
Quote from: winkio on April 23, 2012, 10:28:46 pmWhere are all the male secretaries, cleaning staff, etc? Some jobs appeal more to one sex than the other, does it really make that big of a difference?
Quote from: winkioI do not speak to bricks, either as individuals or in wall form.
Quote from: Barney StinsonWhen I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead. True story.
Quote from: Blizzard on April 24, 2012, 07:17:14 amGender equality/equivalency should be promoted, not feminism. Feminism does not seem to me to promote that women are equal than men but that they are better than men. This is wrong. It implies that women should be given more rights than they currently have, regardless of whether there already have equal rights or not. Obviously feminism is not what it used to be in the beginning.It seems that every movement, if it survives for long enough, becomes corrupted in one or another way. :/ I am for equal rights, but I am against feminism as I have seen how much damage feminism has done to both men and women.
Quote from: Calintz on April 24, 2012, 12:39:37 pmi have to back Boris on this one. i agree with much, if not all of what he has said.@Sub:you constantly recite the core values of feminism, but that isn't what's in question here. i don't think anyone would disagree to say that the core values of feminism are wrong (not even i think they are), rather it's the practice that's flawed. take my government for instance! democracy is a wonderful thing in theory, but it's the practice of democracy that's become warped and distorted and allows for the real damage to be done. feminism is the same in this manner. in theory, it's a beautiful thing, but the practice is flawed.
Quote from: Calintz on April 24, 2012, 12:39:37 pmi would argue that a big factor for what i just mentioned is the name of the movement itself. the name "feminism" suggests the empowerment of one gender over the other, even when the movement's core values don't. this is where a lot of distortion could arise. when a name doesn't truly reflect it's movements beliefs, it can only lead to the wrong message being portrayed to its target audience.
Quote from: Calintz on April 24, 2012, 12:39:37 pmso putting those core values aside, i set my sights on the real debate and Blizzard's first post, which is how feminism has affected men and women and caused a widespread affect of emasculation, which IMO is a negative effect.
Quote from: Taboo on May 06, 2012, 11:25:37 pmI know I'm late to the conversation, but, Sub, if skyscrapers aren't monuments to our penises then what the hell are they? Are you trying to tell me that my life is a lie?
Quote from: Blizzard on April 23, 2012, 03:19:43 pmaka: How today's men are pussies.http://manhood101.com/media.html
Quote from: Blizzard on October 19, 2013, 03:34:23 amUsually being sensitive implies being a pussy, because most people aren't sensitive. They are just pussies, but they are labeled (and label themselves) to be sensitive, because they don't understand the difference.