[XP] Nortos CMS(s) v1.1.1 (My first Script) Credit to Nortos and Silentwalker

Started by Nortos, January 11, 2008, 06:17:55 am

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Nortos

Nortos CMS Pic/Map Edition
Authors: Nortos, Silentwalker, Blizzard
Version: 1.1.1
Type: CMS's
Key Term: Custom Menu System



Introduction

The two CMS's is one is an animated windows with map as background and other is non animited CMS with a customizable background. It also has load implemented into the menu where as the default menu system doesn't.


Features


  • Animated Windows (for Map Edition)
  • Changable Background (for Pic Edition)
  • Map as background (for map Edition)
  • Load command
  • Help Window
  • Location Window
  • Icons




Updates
Pic Edition
v1.0.1 made health bars more central and changed it to BG_Pic to make it easier
v1.1.1 Added Icons to menu

Map Edition
v1.0.1 made health bars more central
v1.1.1 Placed icons on menu and made them animated with windows

To Do List

  • Combine the two CMS's into one
  • Make new item, skill, load, save, exit, and equipment scenes



Screenshots

Spoiler: ShowHide

::D is the Pic edition

Spoiler: ShowHide

::D is the Map edition


Demo

Pic Edition

Map Edition


Script

Get them from the demoes.


Instructions

Place below scene debug and above main, to keep bars remember to also place Blizzard's Addons and CRLS and scene_Soul Rage.
To change the picture background or icons in pic edition just save your picture into the pictures folder or for menu icons into ur icons folder and than go to line 13 to change BG_Pic "(Your pic goes here)" or for any icons they're just below this with their names being like BG_gold, BG_Location, BG_item to change the icon you want for that.


Compatibility

No issues known at the present time.


Credits and Thanks


  • Nortos and Silentwalker for CMS
  • Blizzard for the bars (Also if you use default Image as Blizzard made it in the Pic Edition)
  • Nortos and Blizzard if use default icons
  • Thanks to Fantasist for helping me with lots of scripting info
  • Thanks to Blizzard and Zeriab for being such great scripters to try and aspire to
  • Thanks to Blizzard for his scripting e-book
  • Thanks to Zeriab for his regular expression tute



Author's Notes

Today I completed my first script(s), I hope you guys like them, ones just an easy edit of the other.

Fantasist

Really good Nortos :)

Quick suggestions:

QuoteTo change the picture background in pic edition just save your picture into the pictures folder and then in my menu script go to line 192 and replace "Blizz paper.png" with "Your picture"

instead, you could use constants in the script's config section. Like this:

BG_Pic = 'Blizz Paper.png'

and in line 192, just replace Blizz Paper.png with BG_Pic.

And why don't you try to merge the two CMSes? It's simple, just use 'if's and you're almost done.

PS: Um, how about a non-megaupload download?
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Nortos

January 12, 2008, 12:11:27 am #3 Last Edit: January 12, 2008, 01:31:26 am by Nortos
yeah I was gonna do the merge soon :P but I still need to learn more and ty for compliments :) Oh and woot it got moved into database :D. Also about merge it'll be hard because in two different editions the windows r placed in different spots to animate them because one is and one isn't and in the pic edition windows opactive = 0 that's how it looks cool :P
EDIT: I put up sendspace uploads for u for now though I'm probably gonna update this in couple hrs

Juan

@Nortos Interesting menu looks good. I think I might be able to merge the two menus/help you.
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Nortos

January 12, 2008, 02:10:19 am #5 Last Edit: January 12, 2008, 02:11:14 am by Nortos
I don't mind if it's a hassle it's ok cos would be good exp for me, I'm doing icons atm

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Nortos

I meant icons as in icons on the menu :P scripting it in not spriting atm

Galatea

Wow, ill use that. Your on my credit list, GJ!

Nortos

January 12, 2008, 04:22:21 am #9 Last Edit: January 12, 2008, 05:08:53 am by Nortos
ty :) also I'm gonna update it soon, got icons working now just gonna make it all one script shouldn't be too hard
EDIT: Read pm Fantasist

Fantasist

Read PM Nortos :)

Another hint: You could use the .blt method in the window's bitmap instead of sprites.
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Nortos

January 12, 2008, 06:49:23 pm #11 Last Edit: January 13, 2008, 04:02:46 am by Nortos
what's the .btl method? still learning sooo much I'm :P, also this'll hopefuly get updated tonight into one scritp and icons working on both versions
EDIT: Update map edition v1.1.1 out icons working, couldn't make it into one script though there were errors with other scripts I wasn't even touching :( I'll combine them when I learn more though the practise helped me and I get the switches activating scripts

Fantasist

the .blt method of the bitmap class, 'block transfer', which replaces a rectangle in the destination bitmap with a source bitmap. The destination bitmap will be the command window's 'contents' (self.contents is a bitmap) and the source bitmap will be the icon's bitmap (RPG::Cache.icon('icon_name'))

Forgot the stuff about the battleback stretch edit I made for you ;)
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January 13, 2008, 05:10:12 am #13 Last Edit: January 13, 2008, 05:10:54 am by Nortos
ohhh ok :P hmm yeah I get it I'll probably not update it untill it can help it with something else as sprites work fine for now... :P
EDIT: Btw I got like 4ish futurustic battlebacks I got just for u :) I'll upload them soon still looking for more on a game

Fantasist

Wow, thanks a bunch dude :D

You release the sprite version and work on the bitmap version. It could be tricky to animate the icons there.
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Nortos

yeah I thought so sprites r pretty easy to animated but I not sure about bitmap I'll have a look when I get time

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Nortos

:P what does it do I want to learn more about blt's using some in my icon actor command

Calintz

Uhh...
You encrypted the damn archive again Nortos!!  :P

I can't see the script. I'm trying to learn how to script, and I wan't to make a CMS also for my first script, so I like seeing how others make theirs.

Blizzard

How about you simply zip the folder together, Nortos? -_-
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Nortos

January 27, 2008, 05:47:33 am #20 Last Edit: January 27, 2008, 05:53:07 am by Nortos
wtf lol how do I keep doing that  uploading now...

EDIT:  Updated first post and here they're

Pic Edition

Map Edition

Calintz


Nortos

I just ziped this time like Blizzy said it's easier

Calintz


Silentwalker

Nice script...but it isn't yours!!

http://www.creationasylum.net/index.php?showtopic=17730&hl=

http://www.rmxp.org/forums/index.php?topic=23011

I'm feeling really sad...why did you do that? it isn't your work, it was my first script, and has a lot of bugs, and you simply copy it and say its yours...

I'm disappointed...

... excuse my bad English ...


Calintz

Umm...Nortos??
>>what's going on??<<

Did you really copy it? They do look an awful like each other.

Blizzard

Alright, before anybody starts accusing anybody, how about you check the scripts first? It IS possible that you have the same layout, but a different code. Happened to me and another coder once as well. In fact, we were BOTH copying the FFIX party change layout, that's why our layouts turned out very similar. If the script is the same, then it could be theft, otherwise it's not. Let's see what Nortos has to say first. And besides, you should check his coding first before you accuse him of stealing scripts.
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Silentwalker

Actually i did it...

He just remove some comments, and he replace my window with the percentage of game completed with a playtime window.

The window's size are exactly the same, and the speed of moving are the same, and the tone of viewport is the same...
The menustatus window, is the same...

May be the layout can be a coincidence, but so many details obviusly can`t.

I am saddened by only come to the forum for this, it took me by surprise really...



Blizzard

January 31, 2008, 07:37:09 pm #29 Last Edit: January 31, 2008, 07:41:08 pm by Blizzard
Look, the forum is not responsible for any theft that may occur. For something like this, only the poster can be held responsible. I am not defending Nortos in any way, he has to do it himself, because this is a serious accusation. I suggest that you wait for him to answer. I will compare the two codes myself as soon as I can to give an objective and professional view of the situation. Trust me, I've coded enough to know when somebody copied code and when they didn't.

EDIT:

Window sizes and positions are minor details that could have been coded by anybody. It's the actual code that matters, not simply the design.
Sorry, I'm not active at rmxp or CA, so I'm likely not to know.
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Nortos

February 01, 2008, 02:36:16 am #31 Last Edit: February 01, 2008, 04:10:59 am by Nortos
what I just go offline cos of school for like 2 days and this is what I get??? I'm not even active in .org or CA scripts sections I've only ever posted in the cross command thread once when I was a nub and my project threads.
I don't have time to check it out and I don't really give a crap if someone accuses me, I'm studying atm, but first here's some points, I used the location window code given to me from an Australian gaming forum friend, does his CMS even have animated windows?
  I got my code from help from a ruby programmer the same guy who helped me with window location ,FTS helped me with a fair bit of this and I learnt how to script from him and Dub's tuts, the layout came from a game I've been playing recently on my PSP using a modulator I forget name atm but it inspired me.
Maybe he copied silent I don't know but I sure don't like being called a liar, I spent 6hrs trying to find how to do the icons, after he helped me and I'm sorry if he did copy you.
I'm not going to take the time to look at this guy's menu I dnt have time and I don't care if you guys delete this than...do w/e you want...

Calintz

I know what you mean with the icons!! Took me like 30mins to figure them out also!

Silentwalker

Come on, my menu had animated windows too! with the same methods! same speed of moving!

you didnt do anything of that you claim own, its my work! some scripters helped me and they wrote some methods too! you're stealing me and you defend yourself! its amazing, i've never disappointed so much with something, the rpg maker world its darkest that i thought, i'm feeling sad of seeing you even now saying the menu its yours...

The layout
Scene
Windows

that most scripters use, I DONT IN MY FIRST, i wrote first all the windows, and then the scene...


Mikey Duran

Ok, ok, What the Heck is going on here? Do not be shitting around Nortos... I really like Silentwalker scripts and I´m a proffessional scripter of Ruby and C++, and everyone would notice that you´re just a terrible lier. Come on, how many people would do exactly the same menu style? At least you could say that t´s a mod of Silentwlaker´s CMS. I have studied it on the long run and it´s so obvious that that is a copy of the script. you just erased some comments. Another thing, if you use code of other people to supposedly make your scripts, oh men, you´re being a terrible scripter. Unless it´s involved with Win32Api Code, you shouldn´t rip part of code of other people and put it in an script without saying who were the authours of those parts. For example, i Saw Samo, the thief´s Advanced Real Time Battle System, and although the guy ripped greatly part of scripts of other people for Win32Api Code, he put everyone in the credits who worked with him, the authours, evryone. If you want to make up everything, first apologize to Silentwalker, admit it, and say the names of everyone who helped you. Good Day.

Blizzard

February 01, 2008, 09:34:34 am #35 Last Edit: February 01, 2008, 09:36:52 am by Blizzard
Heh, you were a bit faster then me, Mikey. xD

Anyway, I went through both codes and here is the summary:

1. There are a couple of similar window codes, but EVERYBODY uses those codes or slight modifications of them as they are actually RTP scripts. In this case you are both "stealing" from Enterbrain.

2. There are some minor similarities from which only one really looks like a copy and this is the help window. But since Nortos said that he had help from other scripters, it actually means nothing. It could also be that you and Nortos both took some coding from somebody else or somebody else remembered your coding.

3. Scene structures are different. Their basic structures are similar, but EVERY scene has about the same basic structure, so this is not a valid reason to accuse somebody of script theft.

4. Nortos' CMS is twice as long in code and has extra code.

5. Due to his coding skills ( http://z3.invisionfree.com/ChaosProject/index.php?showtopic=1061 ), Nortos actually doesn't have a real reason to steal anything. If he can make a CBS, a CMS is no problem for him.

Summary: Almost everybody puts the windows first, this is no valid reason to accuse somebody of stealing. Every piece of code that could be considered as "stolen" can be found in like every other CMS script as well (ie. location window). Several pieces of the code look similar, because they were both copied from the same source and modified. The only thing that really looks similar is one window and the operation this one window. As I said, this can be due to the help Nortos had. Some other coder could have seen your script, seen that window and rewritten the code. Nortos menu has more code and the actual scene code is VERY different.

I say with 98% certainity that those two codes are not copies one from each other. They ARE similar, but hey, go find two CMSes that don't have some pieces of code similar. I welcome any other third-party opinion.
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Silentwalker

Blizzard..what about the moving windows methods?...

Come on..anybody can adds some lines of codes, like the icons addon, but, still is a modification without proper credits...


Blizzard

In fact I told him how to make windows move.
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Leon_Westbrooke

Perhaps I can help shed some light on this.  I know you are wondering how I can be involved, but in truth, I am the one who was helping SilentWalker with this script back in June. 

Now, yes, these are strikingly close, with Nortos adding some things that SilentWalker didn't have.  I am not saying Nortos ripped the script off, but maybe his friend from that Austrailian gaming forum did use this one as an example.

I can see why SilentWalker is upset, because yes, he did have the design. And I can also see why Nortos is mad, being accused of plagurism.

There is no real way to tell if Nortos indirectly (by that, i mean, had been given SilentWalker's CMS as fodder by someone else) and was editing it at the same time, or if he did infact copy and edit it.  Unfortunately, there will be no way to solve this.

So, instead of everybody pointing fingers in accusation, SilentWalker, you are my friend, but even my definition of copyright, if he did copy it, he changed it, and therefore, you actually can't say it is yours.

Nortos, if you do have any knowledge of any of this being from SilentWalker's script (i am not saying you did it, seriously), then atleast give him some credit.  I mean, a little extra credit doesn't hurt.

So, instead of accusations, let's just... get along. We all have the same goals anyway. Make games, and share resources.

Calintz

Hmm...I'm glad you weren't stilling scripts Nortos...:)
>> Thnx for clearing that up Blizzard...

Nortos

I took a bit of time looking at his scripts and I do see the similiarities :( I didn't have time earlier, but Leon does point out some good things I think maybe that guy may of copied...and if so I'm sorry I didn't know how he gave me that info I mean I had never seen one of his scripts, if Silent wants I can delete it, only a CMS I'm not to worried whatever he wants I don't mind

Calintz

No...don't delete it.
You've been proven more towards the innocent side by Blizz.
I'm not saying anything bad about the ppl who thought you may have been copying, and of course I don't know the truth, but you WILL not delete YOUR CMS until a moderator tells you to do so. Personally, I really like the layout and what not of that particular CMS.

Nortos

it's only a CMS I aint too worried I'll let Silent have the say...I could do another in like 2hrs these days with better options and less lag but I'm doing my physics essay atm >.>

Calintz

February 01, 2008, 08:28:36 pm #43 Last Edit: February 01, 2008, 08:32:29 pm by Calintz16438
.....DON'T DELETE IT.....
By giving in the way you are, and by the choice of words you're using, you really make it seem like you kinda did take it, and that you're trying to make appease without letting everyone know. I don't care if it's just a CMS and you can make a better one. If you made this all by yourself, then you have no reason to delete it..... >> Keep it

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LMFAO!!
I try to sound big and bad and back him up, and I'm trying to become a decent scripter, yet I don't even know the syntax for the Main RMXP forum that I use!! :naughty:

Nortos

I only wrote that because of CP's rep I do care a bit if my CMS is deleted but I can see how everyone thinks it may be copied and I don't want to give CP a bad name when it's such a great forum, and also It's only a CMS as well, you're just developing your CMS now Calintz but this one's been around for a bit and after a while it's just like ehh I could do better but why should I bother when there's better CMS's like moghunters and Blizz's

Calintz

Just because, it shows your stages of developement, tha allows other members to see how far you have come. Besides, that IS NOT A BAD CMS. It's pretty darn good for the lvl which you claimed to be when you made it.

Silentwalker

I'm not calling you liar..
Don't delete this menu, just give me some credits...

Let's forget this, we're should be friends, this is not a competition, we're here to make games, friends, and have a good time xD


Nortos

k if that's what you want I'm cool and I'm sorry it does seem a lot like yours I don't mind giving credit and I hope this doesn't give you a bad impression to this community *editing first post now*

Leon_Westbrooke

Now that everyone is getting along, i would like to say that the additiosn to this script are nice.  You both did a good job with it.

Calintz

OH YEAH!!
Well MY >>CALINTZ16438'S<< CMS is gonna blow these puny CMS's into oblivion!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

But really, I think it'll be alright... :)

Nortos

I can't be bothered doing more :P my next release script will probably be a new battle system layout

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Fantasist

QuoteDon't delete this menu, just give me some credits...

Let's forget this, we're should be friends, this is not a competition, we're here to make games, friends, and have a good time xD

I don't see why Silent should be credited here :/ But if you guys are cool, it's fine :)

Man, I wasn't here for 2 days and so much has happened. And I could've bet my life on Nortos being innocent. And just as a matter of fact Silent, the speed of moving windows will be almost same for any scripter, because it's the optimum speed which looks good to the eyes. Heck, I'm reviving the fight (OMG! Hits self with a large club). Both of you did a great job with your CMSes, I hope you'll become good scripters :)

PS: Nortos, Blizzy said that your code is a lot larger. I recommend you keep backup of all your versions. Because when you get better, it'll be fun to compare the old codes with the new ones, believe me. It'll be really satisfying for a scripter ;)
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Nortos

yeah ty I'll look at keeping backup versions though my folders r already crowded :( and I don't mind to share the credit I can see the similiarities, oh and spoofus I'm still mixing around with it not sure fully about it yet so wont send it yet sorry

Fantasist

So, looking forward to your next layout and awesome features :D

You know what? I have a half-finished CMS which is a mockup of STCMS (in terms of layout). I planned to name it 'STCMS Lite' in the beginning. I've put that on hold back then, and I'm glad I did, because I've just looked at the code recently, and there's already a lot of scope for improvement.

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That's cool and have a good time :) I'll tell pple you'll be gone and you'll be missed :) I'll try and support the forum a bit more with questions in time your gone :) have fun

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Nortos

Hmm I think I might update this with possibility of facesets later and maybe put it into one script


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