Does the supernatural exist?

Started by Daxisheart, June 03, 2009, 01:11:06 pm

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Daxisheart

Definition of supernatural from Merriam Webster online dictionary: of or relating to an order of existence beyond the visible observable universe  ; especially : of or relating to God or a god, demigod, spirit, or devil

Do you think that it exists? Ghosts, souls, religion, psychic telekinesis, does it exist?
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What is really, really interesting is that while Abrahamic Christians give so much importance to their own free will, by their very definition of their God they deprive Him of free will.
The concept that He is not human and thus not derive the same morals as us really does not work. If his idea of morality, good or evil, is beyond us, is beyond our comprehension, why should we care? If he judges that not saving a woman from being raped a murdered a moral decision, then we should still trust him?
god i am such an atheist asshole.

I am on such a coolkid atheist rampage this week.

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fugibo

Do you believe that the Earth is the center of the universe, that the world is flat, that we are surrounded by giant bubbles, or that this is the best of all possible worlds?

The supernatural obviously exists, just not in the way you think. Obviously, it is the natural that we have yet to retcon in to the natural.

Daxisheart

Retcon? Wha?
Well, how does it exist in a way I don't know? Can you, like, give examples or something?
Me, I doubt that the supernatural exists. It's a bit far fetched and stuff like that for me. But I could see it existing, it's possible I guess, but my stand for now is that it sort of doesn't.
"Oh hey look godless stuff": ShowHide
What is really, really interesting is that while Abrahamic Christians give so much importance to their own free will, by their very definition of their God they deprive Him of free will.
The concept that He is not human and thus not derive the same morals as us really does not work. If his idea of morality, good or evil, is beyond us, is beyond our comprehension, why should we care? If he judges that not saving a woman from being raped a murdered a moral decision, then we should still trust him?
god i am such an atheist asshole.

I am on such a coolkid atheist rampage this week.

fugibo

Yes, ye culturally-illiterate heathen, retcon!

I mean that it exists, but it's only "supernatural" because we aren't familiar with it yet. Once we discover it and accept it, we'll retcon our past beliefs so that it is natural.

Daxisheart

Meh, how about the things considered supernatural now, like the previously mention ghost, psychics, etc. I'm asking if you believe in their existence, as of now.
"Oh hey look godless stuff": ShowHide
What is really, really interesting is that while Abrahamic Christians give so much importance to their own free will, by their very definition of their God they deprive Him of free will.
The concept that He is not human and thus not derive the same morals as us really does not work. If his idea of morality, good or evil, is beyond us, is beyond our comprehension, why should we care? If he judges that not saving a woman from being raped a murdered a moral decision, then we should still trust him?
god i am such an atheist asshole.

I am on such a coolkid atheist rampage this week.

Vell

oh, it's real. but there's no real use in stating any reason as to why. you're just going to give a one-sided opinion, if past experiences can deliver any lasting truth to future behavior.

Kagutsuchi

I only believe in what can be scientifically proven. However I still find the supernatural exciting and fun ^^ Just don't talk to me about the 6th sense and that shit.

fugibo

Quote from: Kagutsuchi on June 03, 2009, 05:46:04 pm
I only believe in what can be scientifically proven. However I still find the supernatural exciting and fun ^^ Just don't talk to me about the 6th sense and that shit.


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impulszero

Quote from: Daxisheart on June 03, 2009, 01:33:29 pm
Retcon? Wha?
Well, how does it exist in a way I don't know? Can you, like, give examples or something?
Me, I doubt that the supernatural exists. It's a bit far fetched and stuff like that for me. But I could see it existing, it's possible I guess, but my stand for now is that it sort of doesn't.


why do u start the topic then?
I could give u a ex. ,but i know how it will finish if i do, so i will not.

as for my opinion, i do bealive in super-natural: Ghost, Magic, Powers, Gods, Demigods, Wiches,Astral Line , Astral Projection, Past/Future Life, Other World.... U name it...
(o.k. not all the crap but good part)

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fugibo

Quote from: impulszero on June 04, 2009, 02:01:54 am
Quote from: Daxisheart on June 03, 2009, 01:33:29 pm
Retcon? Wha?
Well, how does it exist in a way I don't know? Can you, like, give examples or something?
Me, I doubt that the supernatural exists. It's a bit far fetched and stuff like that for me. But I could see it existing, it's possible I guess, but my stand for now is that it sort of doesn't.


why do u start the topic then?
I could give u a ex. ,but i know how it will finish if i do, so i will not.

as for my opinion, i do bealive in super-natural: Ghost, Magic, Powers, Gods, Demigods, Wiches,Astral Line , Astral Projection, Past/Future Life, Other World.... U name it...
(o.k. not all the crap but good part)




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Seox

Quote from: WcW on June 03, 2009, 02:07:09 pm
Yes, ye culturally-illiterate heathen, retcon!

I mean that it exists, but it's only "supernatural" because we aren't familiar with it yet. Once we discover it and accept it, we'll retcon our past beliefs so that it is natural.


Interesting philosophy...And it proves true. Funny how, TECHNICALLY, that means that the supernatural DOESN'T exist....because until we know about it, it doesn't effect us or etc, and when we do - it's no longer supernatural. You could argue that SOOOO many different ways. Either way...

Retcon.

Retcon.

Sounds all coo-wahl.

seox_vocabulary += 'retcon'
print 'Kthx'

^_^
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fugibo

NAWO!!!! Just us seox_vocabulary.push <obj>

Seox

Quote from: Longfellow on June 19, 2009, 04:15:26 pm
NAWO!!!! Just us seox_vocabulary.push <obj>


Seox.cry
Seox.mood.delete("Good")

Lol
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