Ports wont forward!

Started by mroedesigns, January 05, 2011, 10:28:06 pm

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mroedesigns

Im trying to forward port 54269 for my game, but I cant get it to work D; I've tried forwarding it both with my internal IP (192.168.0.5) and my external IP, but neither is working, I'm using CanYouSeeMe.org to check if the port is available, but it of course is not.

Here's the fields that my router has for forwarding ports.

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LAN port and IP information.
  Starting Port: (I put 54269)
  Ending Port: (Again, 54269. I've also tried starting on 268 and ending on 270 but that didnt work either.)
  Protocol: (TCP)
  LAN IP Address: (I've tried both internal and external IP here)    


2. Set the remote port and IP information. (Optional)
  Starting Port:
  Ending Port:    
  Set Remote IP Address:    (0.0.0.0 will use any IP Address)


I leave those last three blank, with 0.0.0.0 in the remote IP for any.
I don't know what I'm doing wrong :/

WhiteRose

LAN IP address should be your internal address. Aside from that, everything looks right, so I don't really know what to tell you.

mroedesigns

Quote from: WhiteRose on January 06, 2011, 12:22:17 am
LAN IP address should be your internal address. Aside from that, everything looks right, so I don't really know what to tell you.


I tried it with my internal as well as my external. I even tried it with 127.0.0.1 know damn well that wouldn't work. Eff, this is very annoying. Dx

Ryex

perchance are you going through another network/router/modem than your forwarding?

most people have this sort of set up

internet > ISP > home modem > computer

this is also common

internet > ISP > home modem > router > computer

ports can be blocked at any stage between a computer and the internet a computers file wall can block them, a router can block them, a modem can block them, the ISP can even block them sometime (thats rather rare though)

if your not getting your internet strait from an ISP then the intermediaries may have blocked the port.

in any case double check each stage of that network chain. especially your firewall or securities software or any modem or router in your network.
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mroedesigns

January 06, 2011, 02:27:50 am #4 Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 02:33:44 am by mroedesigns
I just checked the network map and its Internet > ISP > Modem > Computer

Im not sure what could be doing it, beause as I said I've tried multiple options in the configuration of my modem, and I've even tried testing with my firewall completely turned off to make sure it wasn't interfering either

Edit ::

So I added a UDP forward as well to see if that would make a difference, and I think I'm getting closer. Because now instead of just saying connection refused, it says connection timed out. (using http://www.canyouseeme.org/)

element

A week ago I was trying to forword my ports for a minecraft server.
after 7 hours of touching random buttons, i came across this: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=836
It's a tutorial to forword ports for minecraft but could easily be used for any other i think.

mroedesigns

January 06, 2011, 03:16:33 am #6 Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 03:23:54 am by mroedesigns
Ahh nice. I'm installing it now, I'll let you know how it goes. Either way, nice find! :D

Edit ::
Nice tool, but it didn't work. All it did was automatically do all the things I was already doing :p

Ryex

have you tried having some one connect to the game or doing it your self using the out side ip of the server? instead of just using the "can you see me" thing. it might be working and you not know it. if you have the game connect using the outside ip of your computer (use a "whats my ip" to find the outside ip) you should be aboue to tell if other can connect as the computer will route the connection out side and back in to the server again.
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mroedesigns

January 06, 2011, 03:58:46 am #8 Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 04:00:19 am by mroedesigns
Nope, still says it's offline.  :(

here's what I have applied too, just so you guys can confirm that I'm not messing something up.
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Ryex

and your computer dose have a static not dynamic IP of 192.168.0.1?
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Blizzard

January 06, 2011, 04:04:33 am #10 Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 04:07:12 am by Blizzard
Look up your modem manufacturer and modem model. Then google for them including the words "port forwarding". There will be tons of articles about how to forward a game port. Just follow the instructions as if RMX-OS was a game. Done.
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mroedesigns

January 06, 2011, 04:06:16 am #11 Last Edit: January 06, 2011, 04:48:04 am by mroedesigns
Quote from: Ryex on January 06, 2011, 04:02:13 am
and your computer dose have a static not dynamic IP of 192.168.0.1?


indeed it does. :/

Quote from: Blizzard on January 06, 2011, 04:04:33 am
Look up your modem manufacturer and modem model. Then google for them including the words "port forwarding". There will be tons of articles about how to forward a game port. Just follow the instructions as if RMX-OS was a game. Done.


I did that, thats how I figured out how to do it in the first place. I even tried that auto-port-forwarding program that was linked up above, nothings working. And my firewall was completely turned off and it still didnt work, so idk what it could be.

Futendra

Try hamachi?

Just for testing if it alls till works....

mroedesigns

Quote from: Futendra on January 06, 2011, 05:45:39 am
Try hamachi?

Just for testing if it alls till works....


If it isn't working now, why would installing hamachi suddenly make it work? lol

Futendra

Quote from: mroedesigns on January 06, 2011, 05:54:40 am
Quote from: Futendra on January 06, 2011, 05:45:39 am
Try hamachi?

Just for testing if it alls till works....


If it isn't working now, why would installing hamachi suddenly make it work? lol


Maybe because it is the canyouseeme thingy?

Well me almost always used hamachi :D

mroedesigns

Quote from: Futendra on January 06, 2011, 05:56:45 am
Maybe because it is the canyouseeme thingy?

Well me almost always used hamachi :D


It's not canyouseeme because nothings working. Plus I cant use hamachi because my servers are running on linux, which they apparently don't support.

Blizzard

There is VPN software for Linux, but unless the players are running Linux or unless that VPN software is available for Windows, you shouldn't count on it.

You said that you are running Linux? Do you have Ruby installed for Linux or are you using WINE? If the latter, it's possible that WINE's network connections are messing with you.
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Quote from: Blizzard on January 06, 2011, 11:11:33 am
There is VPN software for Linux, but unless the players are running Linux or unless that VPN software is available for Windows, you shouldn't count on it.

You said that you are running Linux? Do you have Ruby installed for Linux or are you using WINE? If the latter, it's possible that WINE's network connections are messing with you.


I doubt it's WINE, as he's not testing it using RMX-OS or Ruby, but through canyouseeme, which doesn't depend on WINE at all.

Blizzard

Ohhhh, canyouseeme is a program. I didn't realize that.
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Quote from: Blizzard on January 06, 2011, 11:22:11 am
Ohhhh, canyouseeme is a program. I didn't realize that.


A website, actually :P

www.canyouseeme.org

Blizzard

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mroedesigns

Its not linnux that's causing the issue right now, because I havent switched over yet. I've got a laptop runing ubuntu, and one running windows seven. And I've been using the windows workstation so far. I was just saying I cant use hamachi because when I go live, I'll be running it off the ubuntu laptop.

And yes blizz, I can connect through localhost perfectly fine. :/

Futendra

January 07, 2011, 04:14:42 am #22 Last Edit: January 07, 2011, 04:15:51 am by Futendra
Quote from: mroedesigns on January 06, 2011, 04:18:45 pm
Its not linnux that's causing the issue right now, because I havent switched over yet. I've got a laptop runing ubuntu, and one running windows seven. And I've been using the windows workstation so far. I was just saying I cant use hamachi because when I go live, I'll be running it off the ubuntu laptop.

And yes blizz, I can connect through localhost perfectly fine. :/


Wow weird  :O.o:

Let's note everything up:

-You can connect trough localhost
-You will go live with ubuntu, but using linux now.
-You set up everything fine
-You used internal and external IP
-You tried more ports; 268, 270 and 54269, 54269

mroedesigns

January 07, 2011, 04:35:47 am #23 Last Edit: January 07, 2011, 05:14:19 am by mroedesigns
Quote from: Futendra on January 07, 2011, 04:14:42 am
Quote from: mroedesigns on January 06, 2011, 04:18:45 pm
Its not linnux that's causing the issue right now, because I havent switched over yet. I've got a laptop runing ubuntu, and one running windows seven. And I've been using the windows workstation so far. I was just saying I cant use hamachi because when I go live, I'll be running it off the ubuntu laptop.

And yes blizz, I can connect through localhost perfectly fine. :/


Wow weird  :O.o:

Let's note everything up:

-You can connect trough localhost
-You will go live with ubuntu, but using linux now.
-You set up everything fine
-You used internal and external IP
-You tried more ports; 268, 270 and 54269, 54269


Ubuntu is a linnux os. Im running windows 7 right now, but when i go live I'll be running on ubuntu. But other then that, yeah.

Edit ::

So after reseting my router a few times and playing around with a few settings, I got it to open port 3306. 54269 still won't open for some reason, so I'm thinking that my ISP may block that port, which is strange.

For some reason, the server won't start though. It's giving me a 'permission denied - bind(2)' error. The only thing I changed  n the config file was the port number. I tried it with using 127.0.0.1 for the host like usual, and with my internal ip. canyouseeme says the port is open, as well as a few other port checkers. So that means it's gotta be an error due to something I've configured wrong

Ryex

no, it means that the port is already in use by another program. two process can't listen at the same port. you will have to use another port, specifically 3306 is used by your mysql database. but ya this is looking more and more like the ISP's fault, you should call them and ask them to unblock it.
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mroedesigns

Quote from: Ryex on January 07, 2011, 10:48:47 pm
no, it means that the port is already in use by another program. two process can't listen at the same port. you will have to use another port, specifically 3306 is used by your mysql database. but ya this is looking more and more like the ISP's fault, you should call them and ask them to unblock it.


Hrumph. That's rather annoying.
Thanks for the resolution though

DeXuS

January 08, 2011, 01:54:54 am #26 Last Edit: January 08, 2011, 01:59:11 am by DeXuS
Here is a Port fowarding guide that I know of and it may help you.  Read through it, gather what it has to say, then click the link at the bottom to read more.  May help you, may not.  If all else fails...  Ask someone there, Most have dealt with ports on a regular basis since before 2000.


**Edited- Wrong link corrected**

mroedesigns

Quote from: DeXuS on January 08, 2011, 01:54:54 am
Here is a Port fowarding guide that I know of and it may help you.  Read through it, gather what it has to say, then click the link at the bottom to read more.  May help you, may not.  If all else fails...  Ask someone there, Most have dealt with ports on a regular basis since before 2000.


**Edited- Wrong link corrected**


*sigh*
for the last time I know what port forwarding is, I know how to do it, and I know I'm doing correctly at this point, since it worked with a common port. Which means, as Ryex confirmed, that it's probably my ISP blocking access to the port for one reason or another.

people should read more than the first post :V haha

Futendra

Quote from: mroedesigns on January 08, 2011, 02:11:48 am
Quote from: DeXuS on January 08, 2011, 01:54:54 am
Here is a Port fowarding guide that I know of and it may help you.  Read through it, gather what it has to say, then click the link at the bottom to read more.  May help you, may not.  If all else fails...  Ask someone there, Most have dealt with ports on a regular basis since before 2000.


**Edited- Wrong link corrected**


*sigh*
for the last time I know what port forwarding is, I know how to do it, and I know I'm doing correctly at this point, since it worked with a common port. Which means, as Ryex confirmed, that it's probably my ISP blocking access to the port for one reason or another.

people should read more than the first post :V haha


You called them already?

mroedesigns

Quote from: Futendra on January 08, 2011, 03:57:09 am
You called them already?


No, I've had a bit of a rough night. Not even sure why I'm on right now, but I knew if I didn't reply to this now I'd forget to. I'll figure it out at some point down the road, for now it's not a problem as I can run locally for development.

Futendra

Quote from: mroedesigns on January 08, 2011, 04:02:13 am
Quote from: Futendra on January 08, 2011, 03:57:09 am
You called them already?


No, I've had a bit of a rough night. Not even sure why I'm on right now, but I knew if I didn't reply to this now I'd forget to. I'll figure it out at some point down the road, for now it's not a problem as I can run locally for development.


Man, your project sounds very promising, If your project is ready, is it going to be up for long? and how about "expansion packs"

mroedesigns

Quote from: Futendra on January 08, 2011, 04:40:26 am
Man, your project sounds very promising, If your project is ready, is it going to be up for long? and how about "expansion packs"


Thanks, I appreciate it! Right now the plan looks something like this. I'm shooting to start alpha/beta testing around May, if not sooner. I'll run alpha testing for probably a month or two, depending on what needs to be done and how that goes. Once the game goes live, I plan on maintaining it for a while. I'm not going to start thinking about expansion packs before I even have the first game close to finished, but it all depends on how well accepted the game is, the player base, as well as what I'm doing at that point in time.

Futendra

Quote from: mroedesigns on January 08, 2011, 04:54:12 am
Quote from: Futendra on January 08, 2011, 04:40:26 am
Man, your project sounds very promising, If your project is ready, is it going to be up for long? and how about "expansion packs"


Thanks, I appreciate it! Right now the plan looks something like this. I'm shooting to start alpha/beta testing around May, if not sooner. I'll run alpha testing for probably a month or two, depending on what needs to be done and how that goes. Once the game goes live, I plan on maintaining it for a while. I'm not going to start thinking about expansion packs before I even have the first game close to finished, but it all depends on how well accepted the game is, the player base, as well as what I'm doing at that point in time.


I would love to help with expansion packs, because Im better at working at an already running and nice game, thinkingit should get better and better!

It looks like you are actually getting on with it, post some screenshots! Wait maybe its better to go further at your project topic xd