Ryex's learning to draw thread.

[Ryex]

so. drawing has kinda been a hoby off and on over the last 15 years of my life. and I've always liked to do it.  recently  (with the acquisition of my new tablet) I've been working on sketching the body.
I've never so much as attempted the female body and I though I'd give it a shot.
here is the attempt sketch at the basic form. I'd like some critic, did I even get close to the proper shape? what parts specifically can I do better?
if you bother to reply I'd rather you made it wordy and verbose (yes I want you to be redundant too.)

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yes it is drawn in a light red color and it is hard to see. I did that so I could draw the more exact shape on top of it in another layer.

[Starrodkirby86]

It's a good thing that you decided to draw with a light color for your sketches! That's a valid and popular way of doing it. Though the color is light blue, but whatever floats your boat, right?

The female body should be more hourglassed shape and less masculine. Of course, it depends on what type of female fatale you're planning to draw. Usually though the hourglass is the way to go, unless you want the woman to have a few more pounds packing. :v

After searching through a bit of naked female bodies and pubic hair comparisons, I found this:

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Perhaps that can help a little in the basic outline. O.o

The head looks awfully small... I don't know if it's just me though.

And is that a vagina I see?

Anyway, keep going, keep going. Practice makes perfect. And I'm glad you're having more fun with your tablet. xD

[Ryex]

well what do you know a wordy reply :p. thanks for validating my choice to draw in red. anyway. I was aware of the whole the hips should come out to the shoulders and the shoulders shouldn't be blocky thing. but I think your right I did draw it a bit more masculine that i intended. as I said I've never attempted to draw a woman only read about the difference and been semi lectured on it by my graphic artist sister. I'ma work on it again tomorrow. thanks again for the reply.

[The Niche]

Well, there isn't much I can tell you. Where you should go from here all depends on what kind of style you're looking to draw in. From what I can tell, that's the Ryexander style, of which I know nothing and can tell you nothing. Except to keep practising. It looks like a good base and should evolve into something nice. Either way, keep hacking at it, that's basically the only way you can learn art.

Edit sort of: Okies, if you're trying to draw realistic and stuff, there's plenty of books and stuff around the place on that. Reference material is always helpful, just don't sound creepy

[Ryex]

Second attempt

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[The Niche]

The breasts look wrong and I think the calves are a little short. Other than that, it is indeed an improvement. Good work, you've improved the curves nicely. I'd insert a somewhere around here, but I am trying to be objective.

[Power Hungry Midget]

The overall shape is much better then the first. You also capture the abdominal area quite well. The shins seem somewhat off however but maybe that's just me. Also her left arm looks a bit limp. Still it's far better then anything I could do. I second Niche's comment on the breasts. Maybe make them hang a bit lower...

[Ryex]

and now I present an actual person.

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grr, her right arm feels very wrong to me but, then a artist is always his or her worst critic so...

[Starrodkirby86]

Hmm... I can't quite put my finger over that area too, but it might be the breasts that are alarming me.

Anyway...She still has some masculinity...

Try thinning the neck line?

You may also want to consider some of the unique traits between a male and female body:

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I'm looking at the shoulder areas, mainly. :S

Still, like the fleshing out. xD

[Ryex]

your right, the shoulders are a little squarer than they might be and the neck is a little thick. hmm well I like that part is seems to fit her face more. but I'll rework them just for practice's sake. also i know what is wrong with her right arms now. it's too thin :p.

[The Niche]

Hmm, not sure I like that one. To expand:

A) Left eyebrow = disproportionately harsh. Parts of it are also covered by the hair, but youu draw them in anyway.

B) Calves are definitely way too short. It might be that I'm used to manga, but definitely, they're disproportionate compared to the thighs.

C) SRK's right. Teh tittehs be wrong. I'd say they should start a little bit lower down.

D) The shirt and collarbones are waaaay wrong. Dude, those things are not triangular.

E) Finally, you overdid the hip bulge. You had it more or less right the last time, now it's like there's a metal ring in the skirt widening it.

Now, what you're doing right:

A) The jawline is good. I think the cheekbone might be a little recessive, but I'm not sure where that's the cheekbone I'm looking at or a hair strand.

B) The eyes are quite nice. I can't really see the pupils, you should experiment with how to make them visible without ruining the look of the eyes.

C) Dude, you got the hands right! You are officially no longer a beginner artist!

[Ryex]

Hmm, not sure I like that one. To expand:

A) Left eyebrow = disproportionately harsh. Parts of it are also covered by the hair, but youu draw them in anyway.

... I wans't even worrying too much about the eyebrows. in any case I felt the hair needed a bit of a touch up so I inadvertently fixed this

B) Calves are definitely way too short. It might be that I'm used to manga, but definitely, they're disproportionate compared to the thighs.

I know what you mean a bit of selection box and the arrows keys should fix that...

C) SRK's right. Teh tittehs be wrong. I'd say they should start a little bit lower down.

I really could not see anything wrong with them but fixed anyway

D) The shirt and collarbones are waaaay wrong. Dude, those things are not triangular.

ok so the collar bone was in the wrong place and angled to much but have you never heard of a v cut shirt? in any case I didn't link how it look so I gave it a tiny band and curved it

E) Finally, you overdid the hip bulge. You had it more or less right the last time, now it's like there's a metal ring in the skirt widening it.

at first I though you were referring to the waist band of the skirt but then I noticed


Now, what you're doing right:

A) The jawline is good. I think the cheekbone might be a little recessive, but I'm not sure where that's the cheekbone I'm looking at or a hair strand.

B) The eyes are quite nice. I can't really see the pupils, you should experiment with how to make them visible without ruining the look of the eyes.

C) Dude, you got the hands right! You are officially no longer a beginner artist!

hands, let me tell you those are a pain in the ass. I think I redrew the hand 5 or 6 times.

and I present the remastered version [/bad joke]

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[The Niche]

Definitely an improvement. Now the part you are going to hate: I missed a detail about the hands.

Take your own hand. Compare it to the size of your face. Now the same with your sketch.

On the bright side though, if you've got the hand shapes down on a scale that small, you should have no problems drawing them bigger.

[Ryex]

actually I just checked by copy pasting the hand and dragging it over the face, its the perfect size

[WhiteRose]

The feet are a little too small. The length of the foot should be exactly the same as the wrist to the elbow. Aside from that, it looks pretty good. Keep practising!

[The Niche]

actually I just checked by copy pasting the hand and dragging it over the face, its the perfect size

Dude, really? I must be looking at it wrong. Or my guesses were wrong about palm size and such.

[Futendra]

Im studying arts, and I know from experience that all the theory shit doesnt do anything, you need to experiment, retry, edit and spend long time on drawing, female bodies arent hard at all, dont look at stupid puppets, you need to see the real body, even if its might not too normal, but nude people are very inspiring and are very fun to draw! Just keep on trying, dont give up, I currently have to draw photographical, once I took a paper of someone and I tought something would fall of, and it was a drawing xd. Gl!

[The Niche]

Im studying arts, and I know from experience that all the theory shit doesnt do anything, you need to experiment, retry, edit and spend long time on drawing, female bodies arent hard at all, dont look at stupid puppets, you need to see the real body, even if its might not too normal, but nude people are very inspiring and are very fun to draw! Just keep on trying, dont give up, I currently have to draw photographical, once I took a paper of someone and I tought something would fall of, and it was a drawing xd. Gl!

*Ryex walks up to a girl*
"Hi, would you like to help me learn to draw?"
"Um...sure,"
"Great. Take off your clothes,"

[Kagutsuchi]

Im studying arts, and I know from experience that all the theory shit doesnt do anything, you need to experiment, retry, edit and spend long time on drawing, female bodies arent hard at all, dont look at stupid puppets, you need to see the real body, even if its might not too normal, but nude people are very inspiring and are very fun to draw! Just keep on trying, dont give up, I currently have to draw photographical, once I took a paper of someone and I tought something would fall of, and it was a drawing xd. Gl!

*Ryex walks up to a girl*
"Hi, would you like to help me learn to draw?"
"Um...sure,"
"Great. Take off your clothes,"

It is what the internet is for right? Atm Ryex better have a large porn collection xD

[Hatsamu]

Hi, I've been drawing since the last 21 years or so, and let me tell you that the improvement from the first sketch to the last picture is fairly remarkable.

You still need to work in the shoulders, though. They should be more round and a bit thicker than the arms.

Also, the legs your drawing are just one of many "leg models". That doesn't mean they are wrong of course, just that you could try different styles and shapes to keep improving.

There are, maybe, some other things that you could correct and/or change, however, just keep on drawing and you'll get things easily done without advice. I mean, there's not a "correct body shape" as we, humans, are all different ...even girls (?)