Story

[The Niche]

Every ladder has a bottom rung. For a bit of reference, the greeks had Hades, who was tricked into ruling the underworld. He was hated and feared and constantly trying to get his own back. Of course, the Olympians were perhaps the most dysfunctional godly unit ever, so that's really not the best example.

Hmm...the Fritzl titan? XD. But then, you're implying that they created life by breeding. Ok, you aren't, but hey, it had to be said.

It's only six characters we have. Perhaps the loose cannon isn't a demigod, but something in their own right. What I'm getting at here is that maybe it's another overgod. I don't know, it could be anything. I like the half-blood idea, but then we need a reason to explain the Fritzlness.

@Live: A female cult leader? Interesting. Hell, we could bring in feminism as a motive in that case.

[WhiteRose]

I think the reason I'm hesitant to add this additional character is that he just doesn't seem necessary to me; the fewer characters we have to develop, the more we can develop them. The story is starting to take shape, so I don't really see a reason to take it apart and change some of the core elements. Of course, if you think the core elements themselves are flawed somehow, then this is of course the only option.

I don't really like the idea of another Overgod; firstly, this would lessen the impact of the Overgod himself - I mean, he's the Overgod. If there's another Overgod, then neither of them are Overgods. Secondly, he would then be impossible to defeat. We were having trouble coming up with a way for our characters to defeat the Creators; the Overgod dealt with them without a problem. Having to fight something that powerful would mean that our characters would have to be so strong they could defeat the Creators in a snap, lessening their impact significantly (as well as the impact of everything else in existence - I want to try and avoid God-tier characters.)

As for the idea of a female cult leader, I think we would have a greater capacity to make him seem more sinister and evil if he was a male. That's just my opinion. Whatever the case, I think feminism should stay as far away from this project as possible. We don't want a political commentary here.

EDIT: I have no idea how those typos get in there, I swear.

[winkio]

Okay, let me take this point by point:

1.  The creators, or titans, or whatever we want to call them, are a group.  They are 'only mythical', and present a sort of nameless fear.  They don't need names or titles.  This is something that could named differently in different places - the demons, the evils, the black winds, etc.

2.  The overgod sealed all the titans in the center of the earth (possibly in the netherrealm).  There is no way of getting out of that.  But there is some way that they can communicate with the surface (I'm thinking volcanos, but trees or corruption sites or anything will do, really).  They build a secret following among the cult.

3.  I don't understand why we need the other races.  Humans are there, and the whole story can be based around humans.  Would someone enlighten me as to what other races would add?

4.  The cult leader could either be a normal human infused with titanium, or some special type of monster from the corruption zones.  It definitely should not mess with any of the groundwork that was already layed down (no half-bloods, no bloodlines, nothing else).

5.  Overgod - either male, or female, but not genderless.  We have to humanize him/her to show the connection to the people.

I appreciate the creativity, but let's not tear down what we have just finished constructing.

[The Niche]

I think the reason I'm hesitant to add this additional character is that he just doesn't seem necessary to me; the fewer characters we have to develop, the more we can develop them. The story is starting to take shape, so I don't really see a reason to take it apart and change some of the core elements. Of course, if you think the core elements themselves are flawed somehow, then this is of course the only option.

It isn't changing the core of the story. The creators are still sealed in, they still try to get out, they still make contact with a cult, the cult still abducts the hero, etc. What changes is that now, there is someone running the show. And I don't think it's necessary to fight him. The entire point of the character is that he's orchestrating the creators' escape so they can be made no more. Therefore he's on the protagonists' side.

Whatever the case, I don't think feminism should stay as far away from this project as possible. We don't want a political commentary here.

Ow. My head.

[WhiteRose]

Okay, let me take this point by point:

1.  The creators, or titans, or whatever we want to call them, are a group.  They are 'only mythical', and present a sort of nameless fear.  They don't need names or titles.  This is something that could named differently in different places - the demons, the evils, the black winds, etc.

2.  The overgod sealed all the titans in the center of the earth (possibly in the netherrealm).  There is no way of getting out of that.  But there is some way that they can communicate with the surface (I'm thinking volcanos, but trees or corruption sites or anything will do, really).  They build a secret following among the cult.

3.  I don't understand why we need the other races.  Humans are there, and the whole story can be based around humans.  Would someone enlighten me as to what other races would add?

4.  The cult leader could either be a normal human infused with titanium, or some special type of monster from the corruption zones.  It definitely should not mess with any of the groundwork that was already layed down (no half-bloods, no bloodlines, nothing else).

5.  Overgod - either male, or female, but not genderless.  We have to humanize him/her to show the connection to the people.

I appreciate the creativity, but let's not tear down what we have just finished constructing.

1. Agreed entirely; that was exactly the point I was trying to make.

2. I hadn't yet thought of how exactly the Creators were able to communicate with the leader of the Cult; volcanoes are a fantastic idea.

3. Upon further reflection, I agree with you. Stripping the intelligent races down to only humans would remove unnecessary complexity from the game world.

4. I think the Cult leader should be a human; if he were a monster, we'd have to start dealing with the issue of exactly how intelligent the monsters were, etc. As for the idea of him being infused with Titanium, it's an interesting thought. The Cult leader, being, for most intents and purposes, the 'main villain' for the large part of the game, should probably have his own thread where we can discuss things like this. He won't need to be developed as much as the main characters as he won't be around as often, but he still needs to be developed.

5. Agreed. I vote male. How about the rest of you?

[AliveDrive]

Ok, this is where I say:

"Know what guys, I helped shape the core story, now I'm just getting in the way."

I don't want to tear down what we've got, I think it's golden, and I may throw my ideas in at certain stages.

But the majority of the story is formulated now, so a smaller team can work faster with less diversity among ideas.

I feel like the story is in excellent hands and I'd like to begin working on something else, though as to what I'm unsure.

Male.

[WhiteRose]

I've removed the 'race' section for all character posts to reflect that fact that humans are now the only intelligent race.

[The Niche]

Ok, this is where I say:

"Know what guys, I helped shape the core story, now I'm just getting in the way."

I don't want to tear down what we've got, I think it's golden, and I may throw my ideas in at certain stages.

But the majority of the story is formulated now, so a smaller team can work faster with less diversity among ideas.

I feel like the story is in excellent hands and I'd like to begin working on something else, though as to what I'm unsure.

Male.

What Live said. I honestly am finding it very difficult to keep cool here. I didn't have any hand in shaping the core story and it's quite annoying that my timetable is radically different to all of yours. So, I'm not going to work on story either. I'm going to lead the spriting team, or be the spriter as the case may be. Following, as you may have guessed, isn't one of my strong points.

I don't really care about the gender, honestly.

[AliveDrive]

Don't be discouraged! We've only just begun to do work, rest assured we are far from finished.

Does anyone else have a problem with Robin and William?

No?

Spoiler: ShowHide

How 'bout now?

[winkio]

still no problem for me.  Although it is an interesting coincidence.  What do other people think?

[WhiteRose]

still no problem for me.  Although it is an interesting coincidence.  What do other people think?

Hahaha, I hadn't thought about that one. I don't think most players will even notice, and those who do will probably just think we were trying to be clever. I don't think we need to change their names because of that.

[AliveDrive]

It's totally fine with me.
But it's in the back of my mind...

[Hatsamu]

Okay, let me take this point by point:1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

1- Totally agreed.

2- Volcanoes will work.

3- Good choice by removing the other races.

4- Can we give the Cult Leader titanium eyes? I'd love it xP

5- Male; I think it will work better with this story.

6 (?) - Robin Williams should be added to the ending credits :V

[Shalaren]

oh lol I really wanted to comment about the races xD I feared you'd guys hit me.
removing them is deffinetly a good choice.
also why not just call the planet earth? its a fantasy anyway so doesnt have to be something else just because these gods are not in a real religion, and the fact that the planet has humans should kinda tell people its earth. as if the gods are actual gods that created earth, in fact many religions have a story just like that.

[AliveDrive]

Earth, Gaia, the Planet.

Let's just pick something simple and not get hung up on it.

@Shalaren Nobodies going to hit you for expressing your opinion in a polite way, don't be afraid to contribute, but don't be discouraged if something you suggest isn't widely received.

[Shalaren]

I wouldnt go with gaia S:, but just leaving it as "The planet" is actually just enough. no need to actually name it S: just another name that wouldnt be used as much.

[WhiteRose]

I think Earth has been used somewhere before... can't quite put my finger on it, but I know I've heard that somewhere....

:V

I wouldn't mind calling the planet that. To me, the name of the planet isn't really that big of a deal. I also think, though, that this is one area in which it wouldn't hurt to make up something unique.

[AliveDrive]

I was being HIGHLY unoriginal btw.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaia_(Final_Fantasy_VII)

Gaia (also called "the Planet") is the fictional world in the 1997 console role-playing game Final Fantasy VII.

The first sentence of the wiki.

[Shalaren]

yeah I knew that, just said wouldnt go with gaia,
as WhiteRose said, its not a big deal, so even then getting a unique name is unnecessary, even if it wouldnt hurt.
I vote for Earth personally,

[Hatsamu]

The creators made the planet and then they went to another place... did they even name it?

"The planet" sounds good for me (and I really love naming things, but it really doesn't needs a name, though, as said, it wouldn't hurt naming it)