Alice Discussion

[WhiteRose]

"NOBLE AVENGER"
Name: Alice
Age: Early twenties
Gender: Female
Appearance: To be determined
Occupation: Noble lady of a royal family, but they were killed and she is tracking down the killer.
Class Role: Warrior and damage sponge. High stamina and defense, and pretty good attacking power.
Personality: Brash, cynical, generally aggressive. Can be somewhat cold-hearted and unfriendly.


BACKSTORY:
Her family was somehow killed by someone or other and she is out to find the murderer. This needs to be fleshed out considerably.



RELATIONSHIPS WITH OTHER CHARACTERS:

(This section will be filled out a little later as we get the characters more worked out.)



Like the main character, a name is important; it might come later, however. I think it should be something "noble" sounding, but not too over the top. Any suggestions?

[Hatsamu]

What about "Valeria" as her name?


I like her personality. Add some cruel sarcasm to her cold heart and she will be really sweet.

I mean, don't make her to much "batman-ish" due to her backstory. Let her be a bit more close to people, not so unfriendly but more like having troubles on being kind with people, thus answering with violence or sarcasm.

[WhiteRose]

I mean, don't make her to much "batman-ish" due to her backstory. Let her be a bit more close to people, not so unfriendly but more like having troubles on being kind with people, thus answering with violence or sarcasm.

Right; that's how I envisioned her character as well. As for the name, I'll be sure to keep it in mind. It doesn't strike me as the perfect choice, but it may grow on me.

[winkio]

Also, 'Valerian' was used in Starcraft 2 for a prince with almost the exact same character.  So...

[WhiteRose]

Also, 'Valerian' was used in Starcraft 2 for a prince with almost the exact same character.  So...

In that case, I don't think 'Valeria' is really a good option. Anyone else have any suggestions?

[Hatsamu]

Also, 'Valerian' was used in Starcraft 2 for a prince with almost the exact same character.  So...

Wow, I was totally unaware of this xP

Forget about that name then, it just came to my mind at that moment...

[winkio]

I don't know why, but the name Alice comes to mind.

Do we want to connect the royals with the church, or are they separate?

[WhiteRose]

I don't know why, but the name Alice comes to mind.

Do we want to connect the royals with the church, or are they separate?

That's exactly what I had in mind. Almost creepy that you'd think of exactly the same thing.

I was thinking that they'd be separate; though the Church supports royalty, the royalty itself has little to do with the Church. Of course, if you think they should tie together, we could of course implement that.

EDIT: Being royalty, I think she needs either a surname or a "of (Place)" after her name. This is just my opinion, though; what do the rest of you think?

[winkio]

Stonehall? Swiftblade? Bluefeather? Westbrook? Crestshire?

[WhiteRose]

Stonehall? Swiftblade? Bluefeather? Westbrook? Crestshire?

All good ideas. Personally, I like Westbrook, with Crestshire being my second choice. What do the rest of you think?

[Hatsamu]

Crestshire. The "W" of "Westbrook" is already being used by William. I guess I don't like repetition xP

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[AliveDrive]

I think the name Alice is perfect for someone of cold, calculating sarcasm. As for place name, Westbrook sounds fine, I don't have issues with it. It is possible in a large enough city/state to have a name beginning with the same letter..

And what do you think about making her a fencer class? This would be a skill that most common folk would not partake in, thus a unique skill. To me, this fits her personality and past perfectly.

[winkio]

I envisioned her more like an Amazon/Warrior.  Fencer seems too... subdued.

[WhiteRose]

I think the name Alice is perfect for someone of cold, calculating sarcasm. As for place name, Westbrook sounds fine, I don't have issues with it. It is possible in a large enough city/state to have a name beginning with the same letter..

And what do you think about making her a fencer class? This would be a skill that most common folk would not partake in, thus a unique skill. To me, this fits her personality and past perfectly.

The largest problem I see with her being a fencer is that fencers typically don't have the high armour/endurance that is necessary for her to fulfill her class role. I think she would be better suited to something more along the lines of a warrior, fighter, knight, or something else along those lines.

[AliveDrive]

I like the sound of her being a knight.

[winkio]

agreed, it fits well into her social status.

[WhiteRose]

A knight it is, then.

[AliveDrive]

I kind of see Alice as having long, straight blonde hair and bright green eyes.

[WhiteRose]

I kind of see Alice as having long, straight blonde hair and bright green eyes.

I agree with blonde hair; I'm not sure whether she would wear it long or short. Wearing it long would be a symbol of her noble status, whereas having it short would be more practical from a fighting standpoint. It's a bit of a toss up, really. We should also keep in mind what the spriters want to work with.

As for eye colour, I personally envision her with blue eyes, but it's a moot point, really - it's not important at all. She can have green eyes if that's the popular vote.

[Hatsamu]

I was about to make a post regarding her hair.

It was something like "a warrior would have her blonde hair cut in order to look tougher".


Why not giving her a red-ish brown hair, so she can have it long and still look rude...?

[WhiteRose]

I was about to make a post regarding her hair.

It was something like "a warrior would have her blonde hair cut in order to look tougher".


Why not giving her a red-ish brown hair, so she can have it long and still look rude...?

Keep in mind that she is still nobility; we don't want to get so caught up in the 'tough warrior girl' thing that this can't be seen in her appearance. I think blonde hair would appear more regal. Just my opinion.

[Hatsamu]

Something like this? (but longer, maybe)

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Still blonde, but tougher looking IMO.

[WhiteRose]

Something like this? (but longer, maybe)

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Still blonde, but tougher looking IMO.

I don't really like that exact style, but I can see what you're getting at. Yeah, she could have it pulled back somehow. Another thing to consider is maybe we could have her wearing a helmet of some kind.

[AliveDrive]

for the sake of defending both sides of the debate,

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first thing when i google "short blonde hair".

I like the shorter style.

EDIT: although, i think both would work fine.

[winkio]

Maybe during battle, but for normal gameplay, I like the metal armor but no helmet.  Something like:

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[WhiteRose]

Maybe during battle, but for normal gameplay, I like the metal armor but no helmet.  Something like:

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Yeah, I like that look as well. I'd say we're agreed on no helmet, then, so let's put that idea aside. It also seems to me that we've agreed on blonde hair, so now we just need to reach a final decision on which style would be best.

[Lore]

Not to burst your bubbles or anything, but for me personally, Alice sounds too civilian-type. Just doesn't sound like nobility to me. Don't shoot me if that's what all you guys have decided on, I just thought I'd throw in my opinion
Here are some alternatives that I think sound more fitting of royalty:
Adeline
Elva
Ethelinda, Ethel for short
Monica

[AliveDrive]

Rename Robin to Elva
So I can get off of the Robin-William thing.

I think her hair looks good in that picture.

[WhiteRose]

I'm pretty happy with the names of the characters as they are. That's my thought on the matter, anyway. If the others agree that we should change Alice's name, then let's go for it.

[AliveDrive]

I was just being difficult/actually like the name.

[Shalaren]

I'm pretty happy with the names of the characters as they are. That's my thought on the matter, anyway. If the others agree that we should change Alice's name, then let's go for it.

Alice is the perfect name actually. I like it <:

also the armor you guys talked about,
have any of you ever watche fairy tail before? the character ezra and her armor

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I really like the concept of the armor and the skirt o:, something like that could be really good as Alice.

[WhiteRose]

Meh, I don't really like the armour skirt thing, personally. It doesn't seem very practical, and I think it looks kind of silly. Just my opinion.

[Lore]

Seconded. I find it ridiculous to wear a skirt to a battle. I mean, you already went to the trouble of protecting your entire upper body, why leave your legs unprotected? I also think that since Alice is royalty, she wouldn't want random passerbyers to have an opportunity to glance at her $10,000 panties.

[Spaceman McConaughey]

Seconded. I find it ridiculous to wear a skirt to a battle. I mean, you already went to the trouble of protecting your entire upper body, why leave your legs unprotected? I also think that since Alice is royalty, she wouldn't want random passerbyers to have an opportunity to glance at her $10,000 panties.

If that was ridiculous, Nintendo would have gave Link man-pants a long time ago. ?

[Lore]

Nintendo has an Italian plumber as their mascot. I say that's a pretty ridiculous company. Expect anything from them

[Shalaren]

Meh i guess S:

[winkio]

I like the big knight armor that the pic I posted has.  And the cape too.  I think the face/hair could be different though, with harder lines and a little straighter hair with no front bangs.

[Hatsamu]

Short hair is more useful for batlles. (Hair over the eyes is not, but it looks cool :V)

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[WhiteRose]

Short hair is more useful for batlles. (Hair over the eyes is not, but it looks cool :V)

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Ew. No matter what happens, no one let her end up wearing make-up like that. D:

Hair looks alright; I'm not so sure about the over the eyes thing, but I guess I wouldn't mind it.

[AliveDrive]

Lol well obviously she wouldn't be wearing goth eye shadow!

Make up is gross end of discussion.

Short hair, few or no bangs.

[Dweller]

After reading Alice topic I remember about this wip blonde female character (working on it last December) :

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I can edit her to fix with Alice description if we are going to use RTP style.