Chaos Project

General => Electronic and Computer Section => Topic started by: GAX on February 14, 2008, 12:09:01 am

Title: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 14, 2008, 12:09:01 am
Okay, it's fairly simple actually.

First...IF YOU HAVE NORTON ANTI-VIRUS/SPYWARE/FIREWALL, DUMP IT IMMEDIATELY!

Norton is an inferior program that overcharges its customers and supplies false positives in order to make you believe it's working to make you believe it's working.

Here are the 3 things you can to secure your computer, and it's all free.

1) AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition
http://free.grisoft.com
AVG Anti-Virus comes from Grisoft with the belief that security comes first, not profit.  This program is free to home users, and is an excellent anti-virus program.
2) Spybot - Search and Destroy
http://www.spybot.com
Spybot - Search and Destroy is another example of a people-come-first program.  Support comes from people who donate to the program's development, and the program itself it fairly simple to use.  It comes with a Resident Shield against system information changes (TeaTimer) and an Internet guardian that blocks bad downloads and sites (SDHelper).
3) Zonelabs Firewall
www.zonelabs.com
Free to home users, Zonelab's Firewall (Formally Zone Alert Firewall) is a powerful firewall that offers great protection against outsider threats (Hackers).

Computer Security shouldn't cost you a dime, and it's so simple, a child could be taught to do this.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Valcos on February 14, 2008, 12:40:15 am
KicckkAaassss. Didnt know Norton was so crap. Im going to change it then  :o!
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Nortos on February 14, 2008, 01:54:06 am
I use AVG and haven't had any problems with it :)
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 14, 2008, 06:25:50 am
i was told downloadng anti-viruses were bad but becouse u l say its good il dwonload AVG :) thanks

ok, downloading AVG then im going to try to fix it and if it dosent work ill try spybot...
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 14, 2008, 11:49:01 am
Downloading anti-virus programs isn't bad at all honestly.  The problem is that many people create false programs, or they'll take an existing anti-virus that has a good reputation and inject some malicious code into it, turning the program itself into a virus/malware/spyware. It's always a good idea to conduct your own research regarding different anti-virus programs before downloading anything, and you should exercise extreme caution regarding "Security Programs" that are advertised in popup messages (Whether they be Windows Popup Bubbles or popup windows on the internet).

A few simple rules regarding internet-advertised security programs:
1) Be extremely cautious of security programs advertised in banner ads and popups, as most of these will end up causing harm to your system.
2) If you're being charged to use the program, while the official site for the program says it's free, the version you are likely seeing is a scam.
3) If research regarding a program turns up positive (Program is legitimate), then only use download links supplied by the official company/company site.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Calintz on February 14, 2008, 04:34:25 pm
Thank you GAX. My subscription with McAfee ran out, and I've been looking for something that works well, and costs little. Better yet, these are free!! Thank you.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 14, 2008, 04:59:36 pm
AVG is detecting,
C:\windows\system32\tiguinhb


as a bad thing can u guys see if u have that in your system32 folder?


downloadiong spybot...
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Calintz on February 14, 2008, 05:18:01 pm
I just checked my System32 folder, and I DO NOT have that file in there...
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 14, 2008, 08:03:42 pm
Usually viruses end up affecting your registry (This is more common to Spyware though) or  core system folders.

AVG wont delete anything crucial, like a kernel file.

@Calanitz
Glad I could help, I'm just sick of hearing people get ripped off by the big-name companies when there are better alternatives that don't cost a dime.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Calintz on February 14, 2008, 09:46:11 pm
Exactly! Thats why I wasn't really willing to renew another year with McAfee...
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 14, 2008, 10:36:36 pm
Quote from: Calintz16438 on February 14, 2008, 05:18:01 pm
I just checked my System32 folder, and I DO NOT have that file in there...


QuoteAVG wont delete anything crucial, like a kernel file.


what do i sgest i do? MY COMPUTER IS FUCKED SO BADLY T__Ti know it is... im runnign a scan wiAVG now wile i sleep HOPEFULLY it will fix this! :)

and whewnever i open ie it pps up a pop up... just 1
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Calintz on February 14, 2008, 10:44:43 pm
Sounds like you were doing something naughty!!
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 15, 2008, 09:01:24 am
lol... i always do something nauty but this time... i diddent...

i cant tell  u what tho.. i dont want everyone to know..
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 15, 2008, 01:09:14 pm
You just have to be careful about where you surf.
Be wary of what you download, like if a website you don't trust wants you to install an ActiveX control, or if a popup asks you to download something and you don't know exactly what it is.

It's amazing, because these days, Common Sense in computing is becoming an Oxymoron, but luckily there are people like me who can help out in instilling some knowledge on how to keep yourself safe on the net.

;D ;D
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 15, 2008, 01:39:38 pm
hehe you should make a rly long topic about hints and tips and FAQs about how to be saf on the internet... but please dont put it in paragraf form lol i hate reading that :P make it like bulets
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Calintz on February 15, 2008, 02:48:13 pm
That's why I just dwnloaded the free Mcafee Site Advisor...Let's you know if the site might be harmful...If so, GET THE HELL OUTTA THERE!!! Lol
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: legacyblade on February 15, 2008, 08:07:52 pm
I agree, norton is crap! I had a virus for months, then I switched to AVG. My computer was as fixed as that messed up hard drive would allow.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 15, 2008, 09:28:09 pm
Yeah, I'm currently attempting to get my school district to go to using AVG under an education license, since it'd help computers speed up since we're currently using a symantec (Norton) anti-virus.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 15, 2008, 09:47:40 pm
why dose a school need protection? tudents cant doi anything on the computers...
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Nortos on February 16, 2008, 12:40:04 am
Emails? I don't know how much at your schools internet is blocked but I can see a few ways to put viruses on them
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 16, 2008, 03:02:20 am
lol, it's gotta do with the fact that most of my school knows how to bypass filters via proxy, and a few of the others know how to actually crash the filter in the server.  It's hillarious sometimes, I got buddies who like to just cause the school's internet to go down for a while, just for kicks.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 16, 2008, 08:47:14 am
oh well they block,

game sites
email sites
etc...

and you cant go into the control panel or my computer or download anything... the USB ports r blocked and need a key to open it and same as the CD thing.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Nortos on February 16, 2008, 10:44:04 pm
you don't use USB's that sucks like every kid at our school has one and they keep work on it esepcially yr 11/12
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 16, 2008, 10:51:56 pm
yeah i have a thumb drive 2 gigs ^^ but im not alloud to use it :( kuz they block it... its stupid the security in my school is crazy
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Nortos on February 16, 2008, 11:01:25 pm
they ban certain peoples logins at our school if caught doing stuff on USB's they shouldn't be though
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 17, 2008, 01:04:54 am
oh... still thouu can use ur thubm drive...
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 17, 2008, 03:20:30 am
My school is pretty liberal when it comes to what we can do on the computers.  We don't have individual logins, we can bring in CDs and Flashdrives and just use them, but they've got a few programs that screw us over...shit like DeepFreeze (Resets the computer to a pre-saved setup when the PC is restarted), and the server has "Websense" (More like Nosense) to block sites.  They also use Vision to selectively monitor our computers, take control of them, and even block our net (One of my friends has a teacher on probation because the teacher used Vision to steal and delete information from his flashdrive).  The computers are also unable to be put in Administrator mode (Through backdoors or anything).

Some teachers (The ones who actually have brains and have maintained individuality from the district borganism) have started speaking out against network limitations, mainly arguing over the fact that the internet is free domain and no one should be allowed to censor stuff as they see fit (Example:  Blocking porn = Okay, Blocking all videos = bad).  Hopefully the dumbfucks at the district will actually learn and they'll become a little less strict...I mean, I know science teachers who are pissed that we have to find/make new proxies just to get on Youtube.

Little advice:  Look through your school rules and see if there's anything regarding student petition.  If you wanna get a rule changed, that's how to go.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 17, 2008, 10:46:14 pm
im sad that they block porn :(   ...
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Nortos on February 18, 2008, 12:27:50 am
why? Porns for people who can't get action...>.>
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 18, 2008, 12:29:50 am
Well...there's always the stash in the mod fo...I've said too much...
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Blizzard on February 18, 2008, 09:22:42 am
Add eset's NOD32 to the list.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 18, 2008, 02:25:21 pm
Quote from: GuardianAngelX72 on February 18, 2008, 12:29:50 am
Well...there's always the stash in the mod fo...I've said too much...


lol


lol...
Quote from: Nortos on February 18, 2008, 12:27:50 am
why? Porns for people who can't get action...>.>


it was a joke.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 19, 2008, 02:40:30 am
I'm curious as to NOD32, but I can't find a free version on their site.  The programs in this list are all free, thus why they're in the list.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Blizzard on February 19, 2008, 03:17:55 am
LOL FREE!

It's not free, but it's damn worth the money.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Fantasist on February 20, 2008, 09:50:42 am
One thing I absolutely HATE about Norton... it takes a LOT of you're system resources, like Vista's Aero, or probably worse.

PS: Really nice thread GAX :D
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 20, 2008, 12:14:01 pm
I've developed a stronger hate for Norton these days.  My friend's dad bought her a laptop.  Well, it wasn't so bad as to the fact that it was an Acer with half a gig of ram and Windows Vista, but that is also had Norton installed, a bunch of these "performance" programs, some crappy theme changers, and of course, Aero.  The combined resource hogging of all these programs were the death of the laptop until I started fucking with it, and the thing runs fairly well now (Although it needs a RAM upgrade badly).  Going back on topic...as Blizzard has already done, you could submit new programs for the list, along side your own evaluation.  Btw, I have a friend who uses NOD32 and I may add it to the list, although it's likely to be the only pay-to-use program that will appear here.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Fantasist on February 20, 2008, 01:34:03 pm
Free utilities... Well, not as useful as an anti-virus program but CCleaner is one of my favs. It's like a cleanup manager for everything like recycle bin, temp files, lots of other stuff I can't remember now (haven't used it in a while), and even cleaning of things like MRUs from programs like MS Office, Adobe apps, IE, Firefox, (Opera?), and... many other things. It also has a registry cleaner, but I don't use it. Registry doesn't need much cleaning imo. It never caused me any problems in my 4-6 months of usage.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 20, 2008, 08:19:02 pm
I'll add CCleaner later on when the rest of my brain is on...that was the program I forgot to add...
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Calintz on February 20, 2008, 09:55:32 pm
I use Ccleaner alot...I really like it too...
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Blizzard on February 21, 2008, 10:07:20 am
It's not that I actually payed for NOD32... ::)
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 21, 2008, 07:26:10 pm
oooo... :P lol, my dad gave me my computer back and its all fixed n' stuff!! :) just i cant get IE to work, SOOOO FF!!! i downloaded it awile ago and OMG ITS SO A COOL!!! :) i luv it! :) i download skins and stuffs its good why diddent u tell me befor blizzard?? :)
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 22, 2008, 01:59:44 am
I use this Bloody Japan skin for my FF, and it fits perfectly with the CP website...since it's Black, Red, and White

...I need to skin my WinXP next.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Fantasist on February 22, 2008, 10:31:18 am
I started using Opera about a month ago, and if you think FF is good... ;)
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Valcos on February 22, 2008, 04:04:35 pm
Which one is the best tho!?!? :-\ I got IE. I dont think its bad tho but apparently there is others alot better?!   ???
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Blizzard on February 22, 2008, 04:23:49 pm
Opera is the best in security, FF the best in functionality. IE pretty much fails at everything else, except that it's a bit better in security than FF, because FF has all those plugins which can cause issues.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Valcos on February 23, 2008, 12:54:36 am
So which one should I go with? :-\
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 23, 2008, 02:58:10 am
Well, I find FF to be pretty useful (Even though I predominately use IE), mainly because FF is open for modification.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Blizzard on February 23, 2008, 10:05:59 am
Opera or FF. Avoid IE. I personall prefer Opera due to the security factor and since I don't need any fancy plugins.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Fantasist on February 23, 2008, 10:41:16 am
Yeah, and Opera's full of eye-candy to make you get high on watching (at least in the beginning) :)
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 23, 2008, 12:13:41 pm
candy! :)
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Valcos on February 23, 2008, 12:23:19 pm
Lol candy :P Where can i get Opera? ???
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on February 23, 2008, 04:10:31 pm
Opera Web Browser (http://www.opera.com/)
Have fun
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Valcos on February 23, 2008, 08:16:10 pm
Thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Spoofus on February 23, 2008, 08:16:45 pm
wow Opera is nice i like it better than FF
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Chaze007 on February 23, 2008, 08:29:59 pm
ahhhh
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Valcos on February 23, 2008, 08:49:05 pm
Quote from: Fallen Star on February 23, 2008, 08:29:59 pm
ahhhh


:-\...I dont think you can just say that as a post ??? Its kinda just a waste of a post  :-\
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Chaze007 on February 23, 2008, 08:52:08 pm
fine, "that is very awesome i'll look into that becuz i have norton :)"
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Valcos on February 23, 2008, 09:01:43 pm
 ;D See thats a bit better. Im so proud of you  :P
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Chaze007 on February 23, 2008, 09:03:32 pm
it works this is so awesome

XD and ty
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Fantasist on February 24, 2008, 05:30:56 am
I really like this topic GAX, I already said this but I can't stop admiring this :)
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Sally on February 25, 2008, 06:20:36 pm
yeah, :P
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Starrodkirby86 on February 25, 2008, 11:15:58 pm
I lurked around this topic. As a person who faced a serious spyware virus that nearly crippled my computer (Fortunately, nothing important has been lost), I had to go to a good community that supplied me with a great cure. They suggested, after I obtained the cure, to use something that is not Internet Explorer as a web browser. Why? According to them, they stated that Internet Explorer, although not bad, so many viruses and spyware (Worms, trojans, naughties) go take the failures of IE to their advantage. I think they used FireFox or something, 'least that's what I'm using now.

Then they suggested, for a messenger, Trillian, since it's universal and worms (Or naughties) won't go because Trillian is so...private or whatever. That's all I can remember. But I do use HijackThis and Smitfraudfix to speeden up my old computer in my room. That's a pile of junk, unfortunately.

Need to find a way to speeden that up, can't defragment it and scan disk it, it fails...but I don't want to use ComboFix at all. If this seems like jabber to you, sorry, I'm a rambling piece of beeswax.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Blizzard on February 26, 2008, 07:17:52 am
It's a double-edged sword. Firefox is actually less safe than IE, but the thing is that most viruses/trojans/worm really do target IE. You're safer with Firefox than IE IMO. But you're safest with Opera. :)
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: legacyblade on February 26, 2008, 01:55:55 pm
Well my old comp (this comp's old hardrive) was devastated by my brother's porn sessions. My compter was so messed up, I could randomly not see certain sites, and sometimes no internet at all, although I could upload and download things via FTP. During one of my rare moments of internet, I was chatting. Someone suggested AVG. It mainly fixed my computer, and gave the inet more stability. In the end though, I had to replace the hardrive (technically, all the commercial software I'm running now is cracked, aside from Maya, since I needed keygens to get my software back, XD)
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: Valcos on February 26, 2008, 07:22:54 pm
Wow  :-\.... that must have been alot of porn  :P. I almost never watch that shit  :P. And I got Opera Downloaded NOW! ;D and I like it better than IE.
Title: Re: Free Computer Security in as easy as 1 - 2 - 3
Post by: GAX on March 03, 2008, 01:59:24 am
Yeah, I'd actually reccoment Opera.  At school, I have a flashdrive that uses U3, with Firefox and Opera installed because my school uses Mycrapsoft stuff so much I feel we should have a "Sponsored by Microsoft" label on our student handbooks.