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Title: mp3 players
Post by: Blizzard on January 28, 2008, 01:24:06 pm
This is how my mp3 player looks like. What do you use? iPod? Or a "normal" mp3 player? Or don't you use one at all?

(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4108/2810700801bigdp5.th.jpg) (http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/4108/2810700801bigdp5.jpg)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Calintz on January 28, 2008, 03:58:27 pm
I use a Toshiba Gigabeat >> 2GB

(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc283/Derek16438/Misc%20Pictures/untitled.jpg)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: winkio on January 28, 2008, 06:14:08 pm
First gen Clix FTW!  (made by iRiver)

(http://iwritethemusic.com/Iriver%20Clix%204gb%20Multi-media%20Mp3.jpg)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Sally on January 28, 2008, 09:20:37 pm
blizzard, yours is bigg!!!!!....

i use a ipod...

somethign like...

(http://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/vanns/522524109?$medium_item$)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Nortos on January 29, 2008, 12:34:57 am
iRiver 4 gig MP4/3

(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/5078/mp3th8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us)

(it's the black one)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Fantasist on January 29, 2008, 03:03:56 am
I use Samsung YP-U1V, 256 mb (yeah, sucks, but I still like it). I just love the sleekness. Has a flippable USB port, which owns my brother's YP-U2 (1 GB).
(http://i.sravnim.ru/p/1/8/18338/18338.jpg)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Blizzard on January 29, 2008, 07:45:34 am
Just the pic is big, lol! In fact the real size is very close to the thumbnail's size. Maybe a little smaller than the thumbnail.
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Fantasist on January 29, 2008, 08:47:57 am
It's 8.7 cm long and 1.3 cm thick
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Calintz on January 29, 2008, 05:11:09 pm
What kind of music you guys have on it??

I listen to Country & Rock.....
- Sum 41
- All Time Low
- The Audition >> for Rock (of course they're more, but these are the main

- Kieth Urban
- Toby Kieth
- Brad Paisley >> for Country (of course they're mor, but these are the main...
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Nortos on January 30, 2008, 01:12:00 am
Iron Maiden
Guns N Roses
Alice Cooper
Some KISS
Some ACDC
A few Metallica but don't really like them
and some other various songs
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Fantasist on January 30, 2008, 03:35:43 am
Game music I ripped myself, some Trance, some LP, and some songs from movies (theme songs). So except LP, I don't have any Lyrics.
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Calintz on January 30, 2008, 05:02:54 pm
How do you get MIDI's to MP3 format Fantasist!!
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: WeaponOD on January 31, 2008, 12:05:06 am
I use a White PSP for a mp3 player, it works great, plus you have games, and movies on it  ;)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Calintz on January 31, 2008, 03:16:29 pm
Neato ;)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Fantasist on February 02, 2008, 12:49:08 am
I rip music into wave format and convert them into mp3s. I mainly rip music from GBA emulator, and if I'm playing a PC game, I'll use Windows' Sound Recorder (it does have its limitations, but it can be pretty useful).
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Sally on February 02, 2008, 07:35:02 am
i like mine kuz its pink
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Reygekan on February 02, 2008, 07:35:36 pm
(http://crave.cnet.com/i/bto/20070827/YP-T10_black_270x432.jpg)
Samsung YP-T10. 4 Gigs, Video, Radio, Voice Recorder, Touch Screen, Durable, and still costs less than a 2 Gig iPod.

<3
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Nortos on February 02, 2008, 07:38:42 pm
Ipods r rip offs >.> btw <3 that pic :)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Fantasist on February 03, 2008, 09:38:36 am
QuoteSamsung YP-T10. 4 Gigs, Video, Radio, Voice Recorder, Touch Screen, Durable, and still costs less than a 2 Gig iPod.

<3

:cry:

<3
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Sally on February 04, 2008, 09:33:01 pm
i got my ipod for free :P its a 2gig tho...
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Reygekan on February 05, 2008, 07:50:11 pm
An iPod's hard drive is held by electrical tape =/

More power to Samsung. <3
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Starrodkirby86 on February 05, 2008, 08:23:16 pm
A SanDisk Sansa, a very cheap or small one. It's not cheap really, but inexpensive...It's very miniature and special.
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Sally on February 06, 2008, 03:03:57 pm
lol.. my ipod is still more cool then your mp3s becouse its PINK!
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Nortos on February 06, 2008, 05:01:02 pm
it's lame...get over it...>.>

:P
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Blizzard on February 06, 2008, 05:10:27 pm
That was such an awesome pwn, I simply had to power you up.
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Nortos on February 10, 2008, 03:37:36 am
lol ty
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Sally on February 10, 2008, 09:26:49 am
you just dont like pink.
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Nortos on February 10, 2008, 06:01:25 pm
no Ipods are lame :P they just were the first MP3's and are so expensive just because of the name and good marketing, like Apple tried to make their Macs special everyone called comps P.Cs and Macs just Macs  but a Mac is still a P.C same with Ipods everyone says Ipod or MP3 but an Ipod is still a MP3
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: nerissya on February 27, 2008, 03:55:41 pm
(http://s7d1.scene7.com/is/image/vanns/522734209?$medium_item$)

=)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: winkio on February 27, 2008, 09:11:15 pm
I'm with Nortos on this one.  Ipod is a brand.  An overpriced, yet well known brand.
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: nerissya on February 28, 2008, 06:40:21 am
iPod isnt overpriced? its VERY cheap in my opinion. o.O
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Nortos on February 28, 2008, 05:03:31 pm
go Samsung, or even Iriver :P
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: nerissya on February 28, 2008, 05:18:22 pm
Nope, iPod ftw. :D
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: winkio on February 28, 2008, 07:25:47 pm
If you think iPod isn't overpriced, compare it to similar products from different companies.  iPods tend to be waay more expensive.  For example, I got my 4GB iRiver which has the same capabilities as an iPod nano for $120.  $GB nanos are $150.  And the higher capacity ipods are even more overpriced.  In some models, you are paying over $70 just for the Mac Ipod operating system.

Also, the new ipod nanos (which you posted a picture of) are UGLY :o 
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Nortos on February 29, 2008, 12:41:02 am
:P they're not very attractive samsung and Irivers are sexy
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: nerissya on February 29, 2008, 04:06:22 am
Quote from: winkio on February 28, 2008, 07:25:47 pm
If you think iPod isn't overpriced, compare it to similar products from different companies.  iPods tend to be waay more expensive.  For example, I got my 4GB iRiver which has the same capabilities as an iPod nano for $120.  $GB nanos are $150.  And the higher capacity ipods are even more overpriced.  In some models, you are paying over $70 just for the Mac Ipod operating system.

Also, the new ipod nanos (which you posted a picture of) are UGLY :o 


*Gasp* How can you say that? They are sex.  
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Blizzard on February 29, 2008, 07:53:55 am
Actually I like the simply design of the iPod nano, even though I actually don't like iPods.
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: nerissya on February 29, 2008, 08:12:20 am
iPod nanos is made of pure awesomeness. =)  
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: skyrune83 on February 29, 2008, 10:04:53 am
I bought a Creative Zen Vision M 30 GB about a year ago...

(http://www.dukebox.com/photos/Creative_Creative_ZEN_VisionM_30GB_MP3__Multimedia_Player_-_White.jpg)

...and I hate it  >:(

It's a nice player looks-wise, but it has 3 big problems -
1.) My battery is supposed to "carry a tune for 14 hours", but only seems to last for 2.
2.) OMG!  I want all the songs to shuffle and play ONCE - the whole list.  But yet, it cannot do this trivial task.  It ends up repeating songs, and there's no simple way to show the shuffled line-up, like in WinAmp.
3.) The "Volume Leveling" feature I bought it for doesn't work well, and adds crackles to some of the songs.

I bought this because:
1.) I hate Apple.
2.) I did not want to pay the Apple price.
3.) I did not want to deal with iTunes and possible licensing crap like I have before.
4.) It won awards on sites like CNET.
5.) It had volume leveling (a big big consideration of mine).
6.) At the time, it was one of the few mp3 players that HAD 30GB, which I needed.

It's annoying too, because I spent over a month researching mp3 players and reviews...
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: nerissya on February 29, 2008, 10:37:41 am
Thats why you should buy an iPod Nano..  You know what you get, and its awesome. It has

1.) My battery is supposed to "carry a tune for 14 hours", but only seems to last for 2.
2.) OMG!  I want all the songs to shuffle and play ONCE - the whole list.  But yet, it cannot do this trivial task.  It ends up repeating songs, and there's no simple way to show the shuffled line-up, like in WinAmp.


=)   Well, i like Creative to, but Apple iPod pwnz. =)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Blizzard on February 29, 2008, 10:51:14 am
My mp3 player can play the songs in order I put them on the mp3 player. :=
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: winkio on February 29, 2008, 08:29:48 pm
same.  And my battery can play music for 24 hours!  and videos/flash for something like 16!  I dunno, ive never had enough time to play videos/flash for 16 hours straight, but i have played music for 24 hours!  It's not an iPod.  It's actually 3 years old.  It pwns.  hardcore.
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Fallen Angel X on February 29, 2008, 08:31:26 pm
Care to share as to what it is?  ;D
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Nortos on March 01, 2008, 02:58:12 am
Iriver I think it was
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Blizzard on March 01, 2008, 09:03:29 am
Wow, 24 hours, that's really a lot.
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Fallen Angel X on March 01, 2008, 09:42:42 am
Damn.. I'm going to have to research Iriver now then  8)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: nerissya on March 02, 2008, 08:26:07 am
My iPod is 24 hours to.. =)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Fallen Angel X on March 02, 2008, 10:16:47 am
Yeah but iPod is overpriced >.>
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Blizzard on March 02, 2008, 01:04:11 pm
Mine took stand 10 hours when I bought it, but due to often usage the time has dropped by 50%. xD
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: nerissya on March 02, 2008, 01:55:57 pm
Quote from: Fallen Angel X on March 02, 2008, 10:16:47 am
Yeah but iPod is overpriced >.>


no its not.
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: winkio on March 04, 2008, 10:26:30 am
Ok, the following is my evidence that i got from RageVI, an audio author on Newgrounds(its kinda long):

Spoiler: ShowHide
QuoteFirst, let me begin this post by saying I never wanted to have a bias towards any type of machine. It's just not worth it. However, with the knowledge and experience I've gained over the past several years, I just cannot help it. I'll try and keep this short.

Are you a victim of aggressive branding? You might be if you purchased Apple hardware. After all, they just LOVE to rip you off. Now, I know fervent Apple enthusiasts would love to man their battle stations and pull some reason out of the air as to why they're not too expensive. However, some of the things I have pointed out on the BBS have gone unanswered and ignored, even by Mac nuts defending their territory to the left and right of me. I'm posting this here in hopes that somebody can enlighten me regarding the points I am about to bring up.

Not too long ago I was curious about what Apple has to offer on their online store. I clicked on the "Mac" tab and began to configure a Mac Pro (Apple's only computer that is reminiscent of the modular hardware that most of us are familiar with). What I saw on the configuration page was one complete ripoff after another. I'm talking about some of the biggest ripoffs I've ever seen in my life -- coming right off of apple.com. Here are some of them.

Want to upgrade from 2gb of RAM to 4gb? $500

This is the worst deal I have ever seen in my life. You can build an entire computer that has 4gb of RAM for the price of this upgrade alone. You would think the RAM is really high end, so I checked. DDR2 800 mhz. Gee. I built a machine a couple weeks ago that also had 4gb of DDR2 800 RAM. The RAM cost me $75 (And it came with really nice metal heat spreaders too).

I hope you don't want 8gb of ram. That'll be $1500. Forget that you can purchase an entire computer with 8gb of ram for this price and still have room for a new LCD monitor -- Apple wants your business.

Anyone want to tell me what justifies this?

Want RAID? Tack on a RAID card. That'll be $800, please

Where the fuck do they come up with these prices? Most of you probably aren't that familiar with RAID cards. Basically, the Apple RAID card lets you use up to four hard drives in a RAID configuration. I mean, forget that you can get a card that lets you connect up to eight drives for only $250. The Apple card has Apple in its name. That's worth the extra $550, right?

So what's up with that?

Add an Apple Cinema 20" display. Only $600 and your soul.

Price rape with an LCD. What a great idea -- Ripping people off who still think that LCD monitors are "the new great thing". They'll never know that you just reamed them. For $600, this better be a wonderful fucking monitor. Let's look at its specifications:

Apple Cinema 20":
-Opt. Resolution: 1680 x 1050
-Brightness: 300 cd/m2
-Contrast ratio: 700:1
-Response time: 14ms
-Price: $599

Wait, are you kidding me? No, are you serious? This is possibly the worst 20" monitor I have ever seen on the market, and you're being charged up the ass for it. Don't believe me? Let's take a look at another 20" LCD on the market.

KDS K-20MDWB 20":
-Opt. Resolution: 1680 x 1050
-Brightness: 300cd/m2
-Contrast ratio: 1000:1
-Response time: 5ms (2ms grey to grey)
-Price: $199

Jesus Christ, people. If you're not fucking shocked, then you might need to read this again. This monitor is EQUAL OR BETTER THAN THE APPLE CINEMA IN EVERY SPECIFICATION. YET THE APPLE CINEMA COSTS MORE THAN THREE TIMES AS MUCH. That's right. You can by THREE BETTER monitors for less than the price of one Apple Cinema 20". I'm going to have to say this one more time: Apple is charging you three times as much for a monitor that is not as good. Or good at all, for that matter. Apple's 14 ms response time is going to give you ghosting while you game. The other monitor's 5/2ms response time is VERY GOOD. Without being a third the price.

It's bad enough that you get ripped off for a monitor with bad specifications, but it doesn't stop there. At least not for me. I've seen Apple Cinema displays in real life. Tons of them, in my school's digital arts labs. They are the worst monitors I've ever seen. If you leave a window up on the computer for five minutes, the image of the window gets burned in to the monitor so bad that when you close the window, you can still see a ghost image of it that's vivid enough that you can even read its text.

By the way. The Apple Cinema has a couple USB and firewire ports. For a little extra money (We're talking in the ~$220 range), you can get a monitor that has all of that plus a 9 in 1 card reader and extra input connections. Unfortunately for the Apple Cinema, Firewire is all but phased out at this point, and USB ports are abundant everywhere.

What about the OS? I could almost leave that to another news post. Just let me say that Mac OSX has crashed on me more than any other operating system I've ever used. We're talking about on high-end Mac Pros that have been booted from a fresh disk image. Multiple Macs have crashed on me while I was simply using Photoshop, Maya, or even clicking "Go -> Connect to Server". It's not just me -- Everybody has these problems.

By the way. At my university, there's a large computer lab that is divided in to two. One side has 12 high end PC computers. The other half has 12 high end Mac computers. As of the last time I checked (About five days ago), all the PCs are operational, but 4 out of the 12 Macs on the Mac side had paper taped over the screen saying they were out of order. That's just in that room alone. I know ITS has been busy with the Mac lab down the hallway.

Also, the OS has so many annoyances. One of the foremost annoyances is that you can not treat dropdown menus as an active object. For example, in Photoshop on the PC platform, you can select the dropdown menu for font, or perhaps the blending mode of a layer, and then use the arrow keys or mouse wheel to quickly zoom through all of the options and quickly see which one works best. The Mac OS doesn't let you do this at all. Things like that, aside from crashing and being less functional, is just another thing on the list that drives me away from Mac machines.

Oh, and Macs being better at video/imaging/art crap? Stop living in 1989. Not applicable anymore. There are so many fucking idiots who still believe this. There was a topic recently where a user wanted to know if he should buy a computer from Apple or from Dell. Long story short, the Mac was half as powerful as the Dell (It had half the processor cores and half the memory), and yet numerous idiots were still recommending it for imaging/media work. Nice job, recommending a dual core over a quad core for video editing. Along with having less memory, slower memory, and a worse video card. (By the way, the Mac still managed to cost $300 more).

I'm sorry, people. A couple years ago I would have said that Macs are just another approach to computing solutions. Now I just think they're shitty ripoffs. I'm not as familiar with the Macbook line of products, but I'm already completely turned away from Apple as it is.

Any rebuttals to this damning evidence? Anyone?
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: nerissya on March 04, 2008, 10:27:20 am
Quote from: winkio on March 04, 2008, 10:26:30 am
Ok, the following is my evidence that i got from RageVI, an audio author on Newgrounds(its kinda long):

Spoiler: ShowHide
First, let me begin this post by saying I never wanted to have a bias towards any type of machine. It's just not worth it. However, with the knowledge and experience I've gained over the past several years, I just cannot help it. I'll try and keep this short.

Are you a victim of aggressive branding? You might be if you purchased Apple hardware. After all, they just LOVE to rip you off. Now, I know fervent Apple enthusiasts would love to man their battle stations and pull some reason out of the air as to why they're not too expensive. However, some of the things I have pointed out on the BBS have gone unanswered and ignored, even by Mac nuts defending their territory to the left and right of me. I'm posting this here in hopes that somebody can enlighten me regarding the points I am about to bring up.

Not too long ago I was curious about what Apple has to offer on their online store. I clicked on the "Mac" tab and began to configure a Mac Pro (Apple's only computer that is reminiscent of the modular hardware that most of us are familiar with). What I saw on the configuration page was one complete ripoff after another. I'm talking about some of the biggest ripoffs I've ever seen in my life -- coming right off of apple.com. Here are some of them.

Want to upgrade from 2gb of RAM to 4gb? $500

This is the worst deal I have ever seen in my life. You can build an entire computer that has 4gb of RAM for the price of this upgrade alone. You would think the RAM is really high end, so I checked. DDR2 800 mhz. Gee. I built a machine a couple weeks ago that also had 4gb of DDR2 800 RAM. The RAM cost me $75 (And it came with really nice metal heat spreaders too).

I hope you don't want 8gb of ram. That'll be $1500. Forget that you can purchase an entire computer with 8gb of ram for this price and still have room for a new LCD monitor -- Apple wants your business.

Anyone want to tell me what justifies this?

Want RAID? Tack on a RAID card. That'll be $800, please

Where the fuck do they come up with these prices? Most of you probably aren't that familiar with RAID cards. Basically, the Apple RAID card lets you use up to four hard drives in a RAID configuration. I mean, forget that you can get a card that lets you connect up to eight drives for only $250. The Apple card has Apple in its name. That's worth the extra $550, right?

So what's up with that?

Add an Apple Cinema 20" display. Only $600 and your soul.

Price rape with an LCD. What a great idea -- Ripping people off who still think that LCD monitors are "the new great thing". They'll never know that you just reamed them. For $600, this better be a wonderful fucking monitor. Let's look at its specifications:

Apple Cinema 20":
-Opt. Resolution: 1680 x 1050
-Brightness: 300 cd/m2
-Contrast ratio: 700:1
-Response time: 14ms
-Price: $599

Wait, are you kidding me? No, are you serious? This is possibly the worst 20" monitor I have ever seen on the market, and you're being charged up the ass for it. Don't believe me? Let's take a look at another 20" LCD on the market.

KDS K-20MDWB 20":
-Opt. Resolution: 1680 x 1050
-Brightness: 300cd/m2
-Contrast ratio: 1000:1
-Response time: 5ms (2ms grey to grey)
-Price: $199

Jesus Christ, people. If you're not fucking shocked, then you might need to read this again. This monitor is EQUAL OR BETTER THAN THE APPLE CINEMA IN EVERY SPECIFICATION. YET THE APPLE CINEMA COSTS MORE THAN THREE TIMES AS MUCH. That's right. You can by THREE BETTER monitors for less than the price of one Apple Cinema 20". I'm going to have to say this one more time: Apple is charging you three times as much for a monitor that is not as good. Or good at all, for that matter. Apple's 14 ms response time is going to give you ghosting while you game. The other monitor's 5/2ms response time is VERY GOOD. Without being a third the price.

It's bad enough that you get ripped off for a monitor with bad specifications, but it doesn't stop there. At least not for me. I've seen Apple Cinema displays in real life. Tons of them, in my school's digital arts labs. They are the worst monitors I've ever seen. If you leave a window up on the computer for five minutes, the image of the window gets burned in to the monitor so bad that when you close the window, you can still see a ghost image of it that's vivid enough that you can even read its text.

By the way. The Apple Cinema has a couple USB and firewire ports. For a little extra money (We're talking in the ~$220 range), you can get a monitor that has all of that plus a 9 in 1 card reader and extra input connections. Unfortunately for the Apple Cinema, Firewire is all but phased out at this point, and USB ports are abundant everywhere.

What about the OS? I could almost leave that to another news post. Just let me say that Mac OSX has crashed on me more than any other operating system I've ever used. We're talking about on high-end Mac Pros that have been booted from a fresh disk image. Multiple Macs have crashed on me while I was simply using Photoshop, Maya, or even clicking "Go -> Connect to Server". It's not just me -- Everybody has these problems.

By the way. At my university, there's a large computer lab that is divided in to two. One side has 12 high end PC computers. The other half has 12 high end Mac computers. As of the last time I checked (About five days ago), all the PCs are operational, but 4 out of the 12 Macs on the Mac side had paper taped over the screen saying they were out of order. That's just in that room alone. I know ITS has been busy with the Mac lab down the hallway.

Also, the OS has so many annoyances. One of the foremost annoyances is that you can not treat dropdown menus as an active object. For example, in Photoshop on the PC platform, you can select the dropdown menu for font, or perhaps the blending mode of a layer, and then use the arrow keys or mouse wheel to quickly zoom through all of the options and quickly see which one works best. The Mac OS doesn't let you do this at all. Things like that, aside from crashing and being less functional, is just another thing on the list that drives me away from Mac machines.

Oh, and Macs being better at video/imaging/art crap? Stop living in 1989. Not applicable anymore. There are so many fucking idiots who still believe this. There was a topic recently where a user wanted to know if he should buy a computer from Apple or from Dell. Long story short, the Mac was half as powerful as the Dell (It had half the processor cores and half the memory), and yet numerous idiots were still recommending it for imaging/media work. Nice job, recommending a dual core over a quad core for video editing. Along with having less memory, slower memory, and a worse video card. (By the way, the Mac still managed to cost $300 more).

I'm sorry, people. A couple years ago I would have said that Macs are just another approach to computing solutions. Now I just think they're shitty ripoffs. I'm not as familiar with the Macbook line of products, but I'm already completely turned away from Apple as it is.

Any rebuttals to this damning evidence? Anyone?




Im NOT gonna read all that..  o.O
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: winkio on March 04, 2008, 10:56:10 am
ok, I'll quote a few main points:

Spoiler: ShowHide
This guy who has used mac and windows a lot decided to build a custom MacPro from Apple's online store.  Here are his results:

RAM overpricing
QuoteWant to upgrade from 2gb of RAM to 4gb? $500

This is the worst deal I have ever seen in my life. You can build an entire computer that has 4gb of RAM for the price of this upgrade alone. You would think the RAM is really high end, so I checked. DDR2 800 mhz. Gee. I built a machine a couple weeks ago that also had 4gb of DDR2 800 RAM. The RAM cost me $75 (And it came with really nice metal heat spreaders too).

I hope you don't want 8gb of ram. That'll be $1500. Forget that you can purchase an entire computer with 8gb of ram for this price and still have room for a new LCD monitor -- Apple wants your business.


Monitor overpricing
QuoteApple Cinema 20":
-Opt. Resolution: 1680 x 1050
-Brightness: 300 cd/m2
-Contrast ratio: 700:1
-Response time: 14ms
-Price: $599

Wait, are you kidding me? No, are you serious? This is possibly the worst 20" monitor I have ever seen on the market, and you're being charged up the ass for it. Don't believe me? Let's take a look at another 20" LCD on the market.

KDS K-20MDWB 20":
-Opt. Resolution: 1680 x 1050
-Brightness: 300cd/m2
-Contrast ratio: 1000:1
-Response time: 5ms (2ms grey to grey)
-Price: $199


Mac crash
QuoteWhat about the OS? I could almost leave that to another news post. Just let me say that Mac OSX has crashed on me more than any other operating system I've ever used. We're talking about on high-end Mac Pros that have been booted from a fresh disk image. Multiple Macs have crashed on me while I was simply using Photoshop, Maya, or even clicking "Go -> Connect to Server". It's not just me -- Everybody has these problems.

By the way. At my university, there's a large computer lab that is divided in to two. One side has 12 high end PC computers. The other half has 12 high end Mac computers. As of the last time I checked (About five days ago), all the PCs are operational, but 4 out of the 12 Macs on the Mac side had paper taped over the screen saying they were out of order. That's just in that room alone. I know ITS has been busy with the Mac lab down the hallway.


Everything else AND STILL OVERPRICED
QuoteOh, and Macs being better at video/imaging/art crap? Stop living in 1989. Not applicable anymore. There are so many fucking idiots who still believe this. There was a topic recently where a user wanted to know if he should buy a computer from Apple or from Dell. Long story short, the Mac was half as powerful as the Dell (It had half the processor cores and half the memory), and yet numerous idiots were still recommending it for imaging/media work. Nice job, recommending a dual core over a quad core for video editing. Along with having less memory, slower memory, and a worse video card. (By the way, the Mac still managed to cost $300 more).


If you can't read that, then you are in denial.  Actually, if you couldn't read my previous post, you are in denial.  Because my previous post was less than the amount of text on one page of the Blizz ABS manual, and is less than a page of a normal book. 

So you are in denial.  Unless you don't read anything longer than a few paragraphs.  Which I highly doubt if you have as much activity as you have on this site.

So stop with the BS and read it.
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: nerissya on March 04, 2008, 11:11:35 am
Ok i read that bunch of text..


Though i have no idea what you were talking about. (im stupid..)

I dont even know what all this means:

Apple Cinema 20":
-Opt. Resolution: 1680 x 1050
-Brightness: 300 cd/m2
-Contrast ratio: 700:1
-Response time: 14ms
-Price: $599



i see that its overpriced though as you posted another example..


But aren't we talking about mp3 players here? o.O
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Blizzard on March 04, 2008, 11:23:01 am
Yeah, but we kinda came to how Apple overprices their products which is still connected to mp3 players as they overprice them as well.
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: nerissya on March 04, 2008, 11:32:03 am
Quote from: Blizzard on March 04, 2008, 11:23:01 am
Yeah, but we kinda came to how Apple overprices their products which is still connected to mp3 players as they overprice them as well.


I dont really find them overpriced, but i heard and i accept what you think. now lets go on with our lives.  
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Nortos on March 05, 2008, 05:39:05 am
:P ok I still have my views but I want say them
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: nerissya on March 05, 2008, 09:34:35 am
Quote from: Nortos on March 05, 2008, 05:39:05 am
:P ok I still have my views but I want say them


Do it then.. =)
Title: Re: mp3 players
Post by: Reygekan on March 05, 2008, 09:09:38 pm
In terms of player quality I'd say Samsung and Sandisk are at the top. Sandisk has better music quality but less durability, whereas Samsung has more features while less music quality (although better durability- at the cost of higher pricing). Zunes are pointless- expensive for worthless features and iPod's themselves are a blatant and obvious ripoff. I want to look into IRiver now too though, see what they have to offer.