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Title: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 06, 2009, 06:56:25 pm
So I found an interesting style of sprites awhile back made by Southerland and decided to try my skill at this style and I have to say i am really liking it for my game along with the Blizz ABS please tell me what you think. Keep in mind these are concept characters so far.


(http://i35.tinypic.com/2z685jd.png)     New!!(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l14/XSkurai/ConceptCompilationnewshading.png)
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: G_G on October 06, 2009, 07:12:10 pm
I like it its cool, where is this spriting style? Like is there a tutorial or something? It looks really basic but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 06, 2009, 07:21:47 pm
It was an old sprite template I found by Southerland. I like it I think it allows for more detail.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: tSwitch on October 06, 2009, 10:38:02 pm
the female templates' assets seem a little large to me
other than that it looks pretty good.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 06, 2009, 10:39:27 pm
I was going for a more anime style character theme. hence the larger features hehe :^_^': :ninja:
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Jalm on October 07, 2009, 12:48:30 pm
I look at your avatar and your reply and now I kinda want to make a loli joke, but that would be kinda rude.

Anyway, the wings on the last sprite seem a little off to me. It doesn't look like it matches the style or something. I can't exactly put my finger on it.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Magus on October 07, 2009, 06:52:14 pm
Quote from: [Faint] on October 06, 2009, 06:56:25 pm
So I found an interesting style of sprites awhile back made by Southerland and decided to try my skill at this style and I have to say i am really liking it for my game along with the Blizz ABS please tell me what you think. Keep in mind these are concept characters so far.


(http://i36.tinypic.com/2coo7ig.png)

cool
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: C.C. rOyAl on October 07, 2009, 09:16:20 pm
could you post a link on where this template is i want it!  8)
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Starrodkirby86 on October 07, 2009, 10:19:09 pm
[Faint]'s inspiration, Southerland seems to have made these all from scratch as there's no template sprites available. You can see her works here:
http://southerland.deviantart.com/art/Character-sprites-118705992
http://southerland.deviantart.com/art/Monster-Dragon-Soldier-118704738

So you may have to create these yourself as there's no template, kind of like how custom sprites are made for fan-games and all.

That being said, those are really nice works. I hope to see some smooth cut animation. ;)
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 08, 2009, 07:53:22 pm
Yea Southerland is kinda an idol for me in the aspects of spriting. I am working on the animations and such atm but I like the style of these sprites it is simple yet bigger so it allows for more detail.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 09, 2009, 08:42:44 am
They're cute ...
You need to shade. I don't care what anybody says.
New style or not, shading is necessary, and this new style pretty much completely lacks shade.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 09, 2009, 03:53:34 pm
actually there is lots of shading its just they are not the standard sprite style for RMXP so the pixel canvas for shading is not so small thus not as abrupt.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: C.C. rOyAl on October 09, 2009, 07:22:50 pm
so did you just make these from scratch?
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 09, 2009, 09:18:57 pm
I see your points, but I would still add more swatches to your palette. That's just me though.
Like I said though, they are good. I do like them.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: RoseSkye on October 10, 2009, 12:55:20 am
D: I'm so going to tell her about this, they look pretty good I'm tempted to hire you as a spriter.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 10, 2009, 06:05:01 pm
Quote from: RoseSkye on October 10, 2009, 12:55:20 am
D: I'm so going to tell her about this, they look pretty good I'm tempted to hire you as a spriter.

tell who? :???:
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: RoseSkye on October 11, 2009, 04:21:01 am
SZ, shes a spriter on my project.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 11, 2009, 04:28:15 am
Why would you tell her??
To fire her, Lol, or just to come take a look??

@Faint:
Have you ever though of deepening the colors in your palette to add more definition??
If you add more darkness between each shade, then the shading will stand out a LOT more.

As they are ... you can hardly tell there's definition at all, unless you look very closely.

P.S.
When you say this is your new sprite style, do you mean even for standard charasets!?
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: RoseSkye on October 11, 2009, 05:45:30 am
To show her.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 12, 2009, 09:12:59 pm
Quote from: Calintz on October 11, 2009, 04:28:15 am
Why would you tell her??
To fire her, Lol, or just to come take a look??

@Faint:
Have you ever though of deepening the colors in your palette to add more definition??
If you add more darkness between each shade, then the shading will stand out a LOT more.

As they are ... you can hardly tell there's definition at all, unless you look very closely.

P.S.
When you say this is your new sprite style, do you mean even for standard charasets!?


I kind of am debating that. I might make them standard character sets not sure atm. and I think I will try darkening the colors tonight, thanks for the suggestion.

Few more poses are up now.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 12, 2009, 09:50:56 pm
What battle system does your game feature??
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 12, 2009, 09:55:42 pm
debating that atm lol
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 12, 2009, 10:30:40 pm
Well you better go with the side-view for graphics that large.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 12, 2009, 11:06:59 pm
leaning towards that
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 12, 2009, 11:10:28 pm
Really??
You said during the debate that you were gonna go with the ABS!! LIAR!!  :V:
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 13, 2009, 01:19:22 pm
Well I hav been a fan of sideview since FF7 or maybe even before. I just need a good script. Got any suggestions?
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 13, 2009, 01:38:33 pm
Either Minkoff's Animated Battlers, or Enu's SVBS Tankentai XP.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 13, 2009, 01:41:54 pm
I am such a pain in the butt, but do you have links for either  :^_^': if not thats cool.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 13, 2009, 01:43:19 pm
You might have to register to the site, but you can find them both here ...
http://www.rmxpunlimited.net/index.php/rmxp/rgss1-scripts/category/battle-systems.html
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 13, 2009, 01:44:17 pm
OMG! I love you, thank you  8)
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 13, 2009, 01:44:37 pm
No problem.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 13, 2009, 01:46:48 pm
Oh btw, I tried changing some of the colors for the sprites like you suggested and it didn't look right. So I tried darkening some and they looked the same yet just darker :wacko:
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 13, 2009, 02:34:08 pm
I'm not sure I follow exactly what you did ... O_o.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 13, 2009, 02:40:58 pm
Quote from: Calintz on October 13, 2009, 02:34:08 pm
I'm not sure I follow exactly what you did ... O_o.



I tried changing the Swatches I used IE, darkening some and such as you suggested. It just really didnt seem to make much of a positive difference.

When I compared these to the origional Sprites of this style made by Southerland, they appeared to fit in. I think it might just be this style. I have done regular RMXP sprites and they showed the contrast more, but then again like I said, I believe that is due to a smaller canvas size.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 13, 2009, 02:49:06 pm
I don't know about all that!!
You saw the new style I was doing ...

I kept good shading ...
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 13, 2009, 02:52:48 pm
Quote from: Calintz on October 13, 2009, 02:49:06 pm
I don't know about all that!!
You saw the new style I was doing ...

I kept good shading ...

I might just redo the whole color/shading scheme. what do you think? add maybe 2 more swatches?
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 13, 2009, 03:00:36 pm
Anything with that level of detail should contain 5swatches minimum.
I shoot for 6mostly. 2lights, the base, 2shadows, and the outline are what I go with.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 13, 2009, 05:54:02 pm
Alright I will give that a try.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 14, 2009, 03:56:16 am
Let me know how it goes ...
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: legacyblade on October 15, 2009, 12:48:56 pm
Aye, I agree with Calintz on the shading bit. And I think it would be REALLY cool if you made those the in game on the map character sets. I'd want to play the game if I could wander around as those sprites :P
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 15, 2009, 01:00:18 pm
Check out Rose's new game. He is using higher level charasets.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: legacyblade on October 15, 2009, 01:29:31 pm
sweet. Will do.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 15, 2009, 08:02:19 pm
Ok I increased the amount of swatches and have redone the shading. Please tell me what you think. :^_^':
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: legacyblade on October 15, 2009, 09:56:43 pm
It's better, but the shading could do with more contrast (difference between the darker and the lighter colors). For most of them (except the blond hair), I'd say brighten the two lightest shades. For the blond hair, darken the two darkest shades. That should help a bit. Other than that, looking great.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 15, 2009, 10:49:44 pm
alright cool. thanks btw :)   mainly just the hair then?
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 16, 2009, 01:44:51 am
They do look a hell of a lot better, but it seems that if you encounter a big area with no direction, you automatically resort to pillow shading. This looks bad at this high level of detail. Also, you may have added more swatches, but did you increase the amount of change between each of them?? There is barely no changing from one color to the next.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 16, 2009, 08:36:10 pm
Yea i increased the amount of change between them. :( I even used black for some outlines. I will try to work on some of the "pillow shading", it's just a little bit hard to avoid it on some parts :^_^':  So could you give me some feed back as to what parts of what sprites could use work?
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Cid on October 17, 2009, 05:57:19 am
Looks good. Although one thing that stands out for me is the skull on the hat of the third character. He's facing an angle slightly, yet the skull is perfectly straight. If you shave off a layer of white pixels from the left (with the exception of the two next to the black pixels) I think it'd look better. You might want to dull the white a little, too. The brightness causes it to stand out a bit too much for my liking.

Anyway, nice work.  8)
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: Calintz on October 17, 2009, 08:12:29 am
The large areas of cloth ...
The clothing dangling in front of the character's legs and such. In some instances, even the pants are pillow shaded.
Title: Re: New Sprite Style for my game
Post by: [Faint] on October 17, 2009, 10:14:53 pm
ok will try to work on that. Kind of sick atm and it sucks because I never get sick..... :(