http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20100329/bs_nf/72456
With the release of FFXIII and a lot of other stuff going on, I hadn't gotten around to updating my PS3 to the latest version until today.
It's a god-damned good thing I read the agreement first.
With the 3.21 version update, players are forced to make a choice:
- Update to the new version and permanantly lose the ability to install or boot to another OS on the system, losing access to any data you have installed on that partition and the space on the partition itself (unless you do a complete reformat and lose everything.)
- Don't update and lose access to the Playstation Network, games that require access to the Playstation Network, your friends list, synchronized trophies, the ability to watch content with certain DRM restrictions, and all future features and updates.
The official reason Sony is making this change is due to a claim that installing another OS on the PS3
facilitates piracy. Considering the fact that there are physical limitations in place that prevent most of the system's resources (most of the cell processor, access to GPU and all but ~128mb of RAM) from being accessed outside of the PS3 OS, this statement is complete bullshit. Having a third party OS installed on your PS3 no more facilitates piracy than does having a second computer and using it to move files onto your PS3 with a flash drive or USB cable.
I doubt anyone else on this board was affected by the update, but given the huge precedent this sets, I figured I'd alert people.
I noticed it as well. On an older PS3 of mine, I had Ubuntu installed. However, I never got around to installing it on my current console, as I never really had to need for it. Regardless, this is disappointing and completely unnecessary on Sony's part. I'll admit that the PS3 didn't make the best computer, but it was certainly a nice feature to have should the need arise. If they had a real reason for it, then I wouldn't care as much, but I really can't see any logic behind their decision to remove it. Like you mentioned, the Other OS doesn't have access to most of the console's hardware anyway. Hopefully Sony will the error of their ways and re-install the feature in a future update.
I believe they removed it so that homebrew firmware and the such couldn't be done to it.
The psp phat got custom firmware.
The psp slim got custom firmware.
the psp 3000(I think it is called) did not get custom firmware(I could be wrong).
the psp go was pointless and did not get custom firmware.
They release newer versions so that they cannot gain custom firmware. And if I remember correctly there was an exploit or something in the install other os feature. I think. I'm not sure. But the slim does not offer that function. I don't know. Nor do I care. I didn't use this feature. And I don't plan on installing custom firmware on my ps3 or if I get another psp that either.
PSP 3000 actually did get a custom firmware using the 5.03 tiff exploit. GEN team made a 5.03 GEN CFW for the psp 3000 and it worked.
Quote from: game_guy on April 13, 2010, 05:52:28 pm
PSP 3000 actually did get a custom firmware using the 5.03 tiff exploit. GEN team made a 5.03 GEN CFW for the psp 3000 and it worked.
I believe that was called ChickHen. Not that I would know... :whistle:
Yeah I got out of psp modding like with firmware 3.XX
But everytime they released another version of the psp hackers had to find another way to mod them. That was all I was saying. That I do believe that there was some exploit using the install other OS to use some kind of homebrew.
They say the reason the main psp hacker guy quit is because Sony put a message directed toward him in the code of one of the firmwares... 0.0
You pretty much summed it up, though I seriously doubt it will be "fixed" in a future update, Whiterose.
The incredibly frustrating thing to me is...
It's a feature on the box that people took under consideration when purchasing it. Sony is not simply removing the option to use Other OS from future systems, they are retroactively taking the feature off the box of every unit they've ever sold and effectively holding other features on the box at ransom unless the owner complies. That's an incredibly dishonest business practice.
It's like selling someone a car, and then 12 months down the road, telling them the cigarette lighter feature is being discontinued and they have to choose between removing the cigarette lighter, or not using the radio, CD player, or any of the CDs they've purchased to play in the CD player anymore. The car still fulfills its primary purpose, but it's not what you paid for.
http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/04/07/geohot.hack.brings.back.other.os.support.for.ps3/
Geohot is working on a way to bring back OtherOS
Quote from: King Munkey on April 13, 2010, 05:34:21 pm
I believe they removed it so that homebrew firmware and the such couldn't be done to it.
The psp phat got custom firmware.
The psp slim got custom firmware.
the psp 3000(I think it is called) did not get custom firmware(I could be wrong).
the psp go was pointless and did not get custom firmware.
They release newer versions so that they cannot gain custom firmware. And if I remember correctly there was an exploit or something in the install other os feature. I think. I'm not sure. But the slim does not offer that function. I don't know. Nor do I care. I didn't use this feature. And I don't plan on installing custom firmware on my ps3 or if I get another psp that either.
Pointless to
you, and already is hacked(with an exploit). A little research wouldn't hurt. :roll:
Quote from: Branden on April 17, 2010, 01:04:52 am
Quote from: King Munkey on April 13, 2010, 05:34:21 pm
I believe they removed it so that homebrew firmware and the such couldn't be done to it.
The psp phat got custom firmware.
The psp slim got custom firmware.
the psp 3000(I think it is called) did not get custom firmware(I could be wrong).
the psp go was pointless and did not get custom firmware.
They release newer versions so that they cannot gain custom firmware. And if I remember correctly there was an exploit or something in the install other os feature. I think. I'm not sure. But the slim does not offer that function. I don't know. Nor do I care. I didn't use this feature. And I don't plan on installing custom firmware on my ps3 or if I get another psp that either.
Pointless to you, and already is hacked(with an exploit). A little research wouldn't hurt. :roll:
Is there custom firmware? No. Which was all I was saying. Personally I don't care.
Quote from: King Munkey on April 18, 2010, 10:50:37 am
Quote from: Branden on April 17, 2010, 01:04:52 am
Quote from: King Munkey on April 13, 2010, 05:34:21 pm
I believe they removed it so that homebrew firmware and the such couldn't be done to it.
The psp phat got custom firmware.
The psp slim got custom firmware.
the psp 3000(I think it is called) did not get custom firmware(I could be wrong).
the psp go was pointless and did not get custom firmware.
They release newer versions so that they cannot gain custom firmware. And if I remember correctly there was an exploit or something in the install other os feature. I think. I'm not sure. But the slim does not offer that function. I don't know. Nor do I care. I didn't use this feature. And I don't plan on installing custom firmware on my ps3 or if I get another psp that either.
Pointless to you, and already is hacked(with an exploit). A little research wouldn't hurt. :roll:
Is there custom firmware? No. Which was all I was saying. Personally I don't care.
Actually, there is. The exploit boots it into a custom firmware until you restart it(because it runs off RAM). It's just not permanent. Sadly we can't make it permanent yet. :/