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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #80 on: May 11, 2016, 02:02:40 AM »
Is there any reason you can think of that would explain your collection staying on a black screen whenever I start it up? I've definitely used an older version in the past on a different computer so I assume it's something on my end. I tried downloading the previous version to try that but it always fails to extract near the end and the unfinished extract, of course, gives me the same problem. It's been a while since I've messed around with XP but none of the other projects I've checked out so far have given me this problem.

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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #81 on: May 11, 2016, 03:00:15 AM »
How long did you wait for it to load? I tried it now and it took a good 15-20 seconds before the CRAPCOM logo started. You can check to see it's working by putting print statements in the code.

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begin
  # Prepare for transition
  Graphics.freeze
  # Make scene object (title screen)
print "Make scene"
  $scene = Scene_Title.new
  # Call main method as long as $scene is effective
print "Main update for scene"
  while $scene != nil
    $scene.main
  end
  # Fade out
  Graphics.transition(20)
rescue Errno::ENOENT
  # Supplement Errno::ENOENT exception
  # If unable to open file, display message and end
  filename = $!.message.sub("No such file or directory - ", "")
  print("Unable to find file #{filename}.")
end

I remember when a background sound loaded, it froze my game sometimes. Might have been because of my lower spec laptop.



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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #82 on: May 11, 2016, 03:12:36 AM »
How long did you wait for it to load? I tried it now and it took a good 15-20 seconds before the CRAPCOM logo started. You can check to see it's working by putting print statements in the code.
I've left it alone for at least an hour for it to load. That being said, the RGSS Player window goes unresponsive less than 30 seconds in regardless of what I do. I don't imagine it's a case of low specs but I'm running an i7-4790K with a GTX 980, 16 gigs of ram, and 64bit W10 if anything there seems off.

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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #83 on: May 11, 2016, 06:59:05 AM »
I'd still suggest trying to remove the audio. Google search seems to point to that being the biggest offender.



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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #84 on: May 11, 2016, 10:10:58 AM »
How long did you wait for it to load? I tried it now and it took a good 15-20 seconds before the CRAPCOM logo started. You can check to see it's working by putting print statements in the code.
I've left it alone for at least an hour for it to load. That being said, the RGSS Player window goes unresponsive less than 30 seconds in regardless of what I do. I don't imagine it's a case of low specs but I'm running an i7-4790K with a GTX 980, 16 gigs of ram, and 64bit W10 if anything there seems off.

It shouldnt take an hour to load.  Something else is going on...

My old box that I kept this project of mine on was a Core 2 Duo E8400 with 3 gigs of ram and a 1 gig video card, with Windows XP and dying hard drives and even then it did not take more than 2 or 3 seconds to start up.  So lets figure this out.

Are you running as Administrator?

Try running game.exe only, also as admin and with Compatibility Mode enabled for XP

It might be a sign of other failing hardware.  Could be other goofy stuff like Norton Antivirus.  You can replace the game.exe files in the folder with other game.exe files.  The ones I chose to go with were from the 1.02 version but I know it runs on 1.04 with some font issues, hence the switch.

The Font scripts also could cause some issues.  I have a few in the collection, but only used one at a time.  Auto Font Install is present but disabled in favor of ForeverZer0's Memory Font Loader.  It makes a few Windows calls that I know worked on XP but dont have the same confidence in later versions of Windows.  Im currently running Windows 7 x64 because 8 has been turned into a cell-phonified piece of crap and Windows 10 is spyware in a box.

If the above suggestions dont work, try disabling the Memory Font Loader by putting "__END__" at the top of the script.  No quotes and no spaces after the __ characters, so it needs to go on its own line.  Im unable to test this so it would be helpful if you could report if this resolved your issues or not.  If it doesnt, we will still need to dig a bit deeper...
Current Scripts:
Heretic's Moving Platforms

Current Demos:
Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts

(Script Demos are all still available in the Collection link above.  I lost some individual demos due to a server crash.)

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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #85 on: May 11, 2016, 06:41:17 PM »
Are you running as Administrator?
Always.

Try running game.exe only, also as admin and with Compatibility Mode enabled for XP
No dice.

Could be other goofy stuff like Norton Antivirus. 
Disabling my antivirus (Avast) did nothing and I've used your collection in the past on computers with Norton and had no problems. Those were all XP, Vista, or Windows 7 though.

You can replace the game.exe files in the folder with other game.exe files.
Same problem.

The Font scripts also could cause some issues...
If the above suggestions dont work, try disabling the Memory Font Loader by putting "__END__" at the top of the script.  No quotes and no spaces after the __ characters, so it needs to go on its own line.  Im unable to test this so it would be helpful if you could report if this resolved your issues or not.  If it doesnt, we will still need to dig a bit deeper...
This here worked perfectly. The collection loads almost immediately now and the print statements KK20 had me add finally pop up. Problem solved. I'll definitely be checking it out later to see what's new and I'll be around since I'm working on stuff again and I've got tons of free time. Thanks for your help.

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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #86 on: May 11, 2016, 10:59:31 PM »
Thanks for saying so.

I may need F0's, or even Blizzards help in getting that to work since it makes Windows calls that Im unfamiliar with and dont have access to Windows 10...

Until there is a Windows 10 fix, for anyone on Windows 10, it sounds like the Memory Font Loader script in the Collection doesnt work.
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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #87 on: May 11, 2016, 11:16:33 PM »
On the reply where I said it took me a good 15-20 seconds, that was on Windows 10. And I just double clicked the Game.exe as soon as I extracted it. So there's something more to it.

If the problem is not obvious, I suggest the "print statements" approach again, locate where the script is hanging. It's gotta be one of the WinAPI calls.
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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #88 on: June 10, 2016, 12:33:00 PM »
Hey there,

i was playing around the last day(s) in the maker and thought about some nice Idea which could be very useful. Since Heretic asked that day about new Ideas i thought, why not just post it here and see if there is some interestit to script it.

Event Size

So, as we know, Events are always 32 x 32 pixels and so they only take up one single tile on the map with collision etc. However, this also includes events with bigger graphics assigned to them. Logically, the big Dragon from the RTP for example should not be able to pass a 1 Tile space, but sadly it can. How about changing that?
The Possibility to give Events a proper Event Size (maybe through Comments) would be great. With that, Events with bigger Graphics could not pass anymore, for them, impassable areas or not be crossed by Player/Events where it should not be possible (think of the carriage). Furthermore,  the new size could be taken into account for triggering other Actions like Player touch/Event touch.

greetz
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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #89 on: June 11, 2016, 01:54:15 AM »
Its a good idea but a nightmare level of work to achieve that.  It would require rewriting damn near every movement and modular passable script and anything else that checks @real_x = @x * 128
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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #90 on: June 11, 2016, 05:09:24 AM »
Actually it's not that complex. But yes, it's a compaibility nightmare.
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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #91 on: August 21, 2016, 03:07:25 AM »
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Saturday, August 20th, 2016

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Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts

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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #92 on: September 06, 2016, 04:44:52 PM »
I downloaded your latest demo (oh wow 143mb!) O.o
but when I tried to playtest, it was extremely laggy

you should've included antilag script in your demo

Edit : used ABSEAL but still didn't reduce the lag
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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #93 on: September 06, 2016, 07:35:32 PM »
I do agree the download size is pretty absurd. Should separate the download so that, when there's an update, users don't have to download all the graphics or w/e again.

What part was laggy? The light system?



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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #94 on: September 07, 2016, 12:53:12 AM »
What part was laggy? The light system?

only tried first few maps and lost interest because of lagg
the game seems paused for a few seconds for every step

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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #95 on: September 07, 2016, 01:38:28 AM »
How's your computer specs? I'm not really seeing any frame drops on the first few maps, it's still above 30.



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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #96 on: September 07, 2016, 05:30:02 AM »
Framerates gave me some difficulty because my specs are retardedly high and I pretty much dont experience any lag anywhere.

- My Specs: Intel i7-6700k OC'd to 4.6Ghz with 16 gigs of DDR4 RAM, also OC'd to 3000.

There are Framerate Optimization Scripts already in place.  Unfortunately, due to my systems high specs, I have not really been able to test adequately for framerate optimizations.  It is possible that some of the lag is caused by the sheer volume of scripts.  I know my video card is not great.  GeForce 750TX, which is not really a high end card, but compared to onboard video, may also be a possible source of the aforementioned lag.

File size is exceptionally large for a standard Demo due to the art assets that are included.  The upside of that is the Tilemaps are fully configured, which is where the size really comes from.  Scripts take up diddly squat for size.

There are Legacy versions, so now I am curious if the lag you experienced also occurs in the older version also?  I know the Lighting Script, with its heavy use of stretch_blt is most likely a culprit as far as video lag, but if the Legacy version runs well and this one doesnt, we will at least know it is the Dynamic Lighting script.

Thanks for reporting the issue with performance!  If you experience it and report it, others that experience it also may not report it at all.

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Also worth mentioning, my primary drive is a SSD.  For stuff that needs to be loaded, it may be a slow hard drive, but I would also like to keep the minimum system specs as low as I can...
« Last Edit: September 07, 2016, 05:33:43 AM by Heretic86 »
Current Scripts:
Heretic's Moving Platforms

Current Demos:
Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts

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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #97 on: September 07, 2016, 06:23:37 AM »
my computer spec


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I'll try legacy version later
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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #98 on: September 07, 2016, 09:29:23 AM »
Onboard Video.  I believe that is the issue.  It will most likely cause you a ton of issues in other games as well, especially higher end ones.  Upside is that a half way decent video card, even like an $80 dollar one can remedy most of those issues.  Not to brag but my system only dropped to 37 fps at a few points so it made it difficult for me to check performance on lower end machines as I built it all.  I may have to put in a disclaimer that recommends the use of non onboard video card...
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Re: [XP] Heretic's Collection of Art and 100% Compatible Scripts
« Reply #99 on: September 07, 2016, 01:41:03 PM »
sigh... too bad :(

but I think most people in my country still use their onboard card (oh well, and pirated winxp :v)
even if I bought external video card, it meaningless if people who will play my games didn't.

just my suggestion, if you somehow can corporate multi layer script : http://forum.chaos-project.com/index.php/topic,13318.0.html
I think you can reduce those event tile block thing that almost fill the map in your demo