Started by Taboo, February 01, 2014, 02:06:41 pm
Quote from: Blizzard on January 21, 2014, 05:39:21 amI have had a somewhat similar experience. My family aren't hardcore Christians, but they do believe in Jesus. A few years ago I realized that I don't agree with a few core beliefs of Christianity so I think that I have no right to call myself a Christian. I still believe that there is a superior conscious being that started everything, but I don't think that they did it for a "higher purpose" and it doesn't even matter to me. Lol, like a true Agnostic; whether there is a god or not does not really matter to me anyway, but I do believe in one.Though, I did tell my family that I've sworn off Christianity. My mother took it a bit hard at first and my parents aren't really comfortable with it, but it's not an issue as they respect my decision.my reasons: ShowHide1. Getting baptized basically makes you a Christian for life. Your parents do your promise instead of you yourself so basically you are not given a choice to not be Christian if your parents say so. It's a self-serving ritual and becomes meaningless if you don't believe in it. I disagree with this as everybody should be able to make their choice and be able to change it at any time. Christianity does not allow you to leave technically. But only as long as you believe in it. If you don't believe in Jesus, it makes the ritual meaningless since its whole purpose is based on believing that it has one.2. No sex before marriage; I completely disagree. I understand that there should be a way to force people to look after their children who aren't careful with sex. But marriage comes down to one thing again: Make a promise and being forced to keep it. In Christianity it's literally "until death parts us" so sex is basically prohibited before marriage to make sure you do your parental duties in at least some way. It's not a bad thing, but with today's laws about child support and protection during sex, it becomes obsolete.3. The Jewish god is vengeful and killed millions of people in the Old Testament. The Christian god will forgive you even if you destroyed the entire universe as long as you're just honestly sorry about it. I can't believe in a god that will erase all consequences of your actions, it doesn't seem right. Don't get me wrong, forgiveness is a good thing, but there has to be a limit. If somebody does the same mistake over and over, there is no point in forgiving them as they aren't making an actual effort to not make that mistake anymore. Which means that they obviously aren't sorry.4. Honestly, I forgot what #4 was. xDThese may seem like "minor" stuff, but they are important to Christians.
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Quote from: Blizzard on February 01, 2014, 03:42:28 pmIt's good to believe, but one shouldn't put beliefs above common sense.
Quote from: Blizzard on February 01, 2014, 03:42:28 pm I don't think a sentient god would agree with being blindly faithful either.
Quote from: Kiwa on February 02, 2014, 08:27:18 amthen they can just say "sorry" and its all ok?!
Quote from: Blizzard on February 01, 2014, 03:42:28 pm But according to hardcore Christians, it's blasphemy to think with your own head.
Quote from: Blizzard on February 13, 2014, 02:15:11 amActually, no, you have no way of proving that god does not exist (as you have no way to prove that he does exist). In order to prove a negative, you first have assume the positive and then find counter examples which counter the initial hypothesis (basic logic, duh). Since god by itself is an undefined and vague mystery, you can't set up a hypothesis about god's existence.I am a person of evidence and hard facts myself. But that doesn't mean that I can't believe.
Quote from: Blizzard on March 03, 2014, 02:02:38 amI have never heard about any proofs for either side.