Blizz-ABS vs. XAS

[Kett Shee]

Um...there wasn't any fighting...this topic has been empty for a long while until you decided to revive it.

[XxxZEROxxX]

Um...there wasn't any fighting...this topic has been empty for a long while until you decided to revive it.

Just close it please there was fighting
if u can

[Kett Shee]

Right, um well I'm not a mod, so I'll just leave this topic without another word. (-_-')

[XxxZEROxxX]

Right, um well I'm not a mod, so I'll just leave this topic without another word. (-_-')

DANG IT!

any way some one close it so we can get rid of it

[winkio]

There is no need to close this topic.  There is, however, a need to ban you, at least for 24 hours, until the other mods decide what to do with you.

[Spaceman McConaughey]

any way some one close it so we can get rid of it

Holy fuck. Were you dropped on your head a lot as an infant? I mean, there is no other excuse for the awful grammar, awful arguments... immense double-posting, ect. I hope they decide a permanent ban, really; you do not seem like the intelligent type, and would just keep this shit going until you look like a greater idiot.

[Blizzard]

@XxxZEROxxX: Go take your sexual frustrations out somewhere else. The only one who is causing trouble in this topic is you.

[Taiine]

Just close it please there was fighting

...................fighting? Where? O.o You seriously much be badly misinterpreting people's posts to think there's been fighting.

Anyway. My two pennies and experience sense this was popped back up and didn't get time to post my own before it sank to the bottom depths. (If no one minds)

When I first started redoing my game Demons Bane for XP, I went on a hunt for a battle system that was easy to use and best of all, different. So many systems that edit the look and feel of the default system, to many side battle systems that were buggy and annoying, some making you go 'What just happened?!'

XAS was the first on map battle system I found and used. I liked it, though it was a pain in the tush to work with. I never sorted out how to config even a small bit of it. In the end it looked more like the flashy display tried to hide the poor controls, hard to set up enemies, and I never did sort out how to make my own weapons. Ended up being 'use the default and be happy' >.> Test playing against EASY TO KILL enemies resulted in me dieing more times then not. Then there were the script conflicts, oh so many conflicts.. gt to where any other script/effect even menu system I wanted had a fit with it, ether used just XAS and nothing else at all, or toss XAS in favor for the scrips I want to use. But I bunkered down, and was using it for almost a full year as I developed the story to my game and did a lot of testing.

BABS I stumbled on by pure accident on some other forum posted by some user that was def not good'ol Blizz. It was an older version but the time was the most up to date copy, had it's issues, but I found it to be a lot better then XAS. Gave it a try, made a test game with it, messed around... What drew me to it was the controls. I could actually hit and beat those EASY TO KILL enemies that were a pain with XAS. Best of all it only conflicted with a few of the scrips I had WANTED to use, those conflicts were on some of the more 'for looks' scrips, ones I didn't mind tossing for this (okay the dynamic footprints I do still miss) I ended up tossing out XAS for this. Best of all, the one map that was having such ugly lag issues that I had fought over how to remedy, had no lag with BABS. Give you a guess what I chose to keep using still today :3


Over all. XAS is very flashy, does have it's pluses to it, personally I do like it's hub a bit better, though could most likely come up with something just as 'cool' looking using Z-hub if I could sort out how to scooch up the MP bar to be flush with the hp bar and add a bg image behind em >.> <.<

BABS however is easier to configure for me, don't take nearly as long to set up enemies, weapons are a breeze. My only issue's is yet to find away to be able to interact more with the enemies. IE. actions and sounds and on action button uses aside OH THERE IT IS KILL IT. though I notice anything you add to them plays after you kill them only... like to get some mobs/critters that will just flee from you.. not attack, just, flee... and get my following party to help with enemies set to passive that I go POKE and it goes POKE back and they sit twiddling their thumbs.

[Blizzard]

I think winkio said he's going to implement hit sounds (or you could always get a generic script for that, it should work with Blizz-ABS) so your only problem might vanish just like that. xD

[Subsonic_Noise]

The XAS HUD works with BlizzABS when you use my modified version, and hit sounds are easily possible and I am the GODDAMN BATMAN thank you

[littleK123]

uh guys what Is XAS?

[Wizered67]

It is another abs sort of like blizz-abs, but not as awesome!

[Taiine]

I don't mean JUST hit sounds. I mean like talking to them and your basic actions. Plus making mobs that only flee, not attack.

...also notice adding any actions to them prevents them from responding at a spawn point. Sense actions did go off when they died, adding a sound to thatthat went off when they died.. well, they no respawn unless that's removed

and.... I did become a bit hooked with Z-hub... XD It's just those two I said, being able to find the part of the script to scooch up the mp bar flesh with the hp bar (no gap) and/or put an image behind it. Sadly all edits I tried either put up a busted script or no change at all (that I can see) but I'll give yours a try too SSN

[Shalaren]

huh O:
I must say that Xas does have some badass feutures that Blizz abd doesnt, especially the new Xas.
they can make bosses with a battler displayed on the map, and its animated as if its breathing, which is awsome.
+ its possible making skills, that its a simple skill that strikes the enemy, but the dmg displayes a couple of times in the animation, instead of making a long animation and just showing "300" as dmg, its possible to choose frames to display dmg, something like at frame 5 it'll display 33.33% damage, and then at 15 frames it'll show another 33.33% damage, and then again at 30 frames it'll show another 33.33% damage
which makes it really easy making Unique skills (especially for those who want to build classes in the game)
another thing is that a normal attack, can be actually a combo. (and it depends with what weapon you use) and the combi is just, like swing and then swing the other way and stab. those kind of things. and many things that if Bizz-abs has, it would be awsome.
+ bosses can have the big long hp bar that is being displayed on the map.
but one bad thing about Xas, is that its really hard making a skill, and its not as easy to config as it is in blizz abs.

[winkio]

See, all of those things are easily done in Blizz-ABS.  And Blizz-ABS combos are much more advanced.

[Blizzard]

I mean like talking to them and your basic actions.

You can add sounds in user animations without problems. Actually, in fact you can use sounds in hit animations as well.

Plus making mobs that only flee, not attack.

Give them only the escape action.

...also notice adding any actions to them prevents them from responding at a spawn point. Sense actions did go off when they died, adding a sound to thatthat went off when they died.. well, they no respawn unless that's removed

I'm not sure what you are saying, but you should be aware of the fact that Blizz-ABS can use custom event triggers for events and enemies and that the default setting is "trigger on dying".

and.... I did become a bit hooked with Z-hub... XD It's just those two I said, being able to find the part of the script to scooch up the mp bar flesh with the hp bar (no gap) and/or put an image behind it. Sadly all edits I tried either put up a busted script or no change at all (that I can see) but I'll give yours a try too SSN

Don't change the Z-HUD at all. Add a new script if you want additional stuff to be displayed. It's that simple.

[Taiine]

Yeah, it's me trying to learn the custom event thing so stuff I'd like don't only go off when they die. though I do kinda like that, adding a sound effect that goes off as they die, but anything added to the enemy event prevents it from respawning at a spawn point.

As for zhub, easy for you maybe. :3 I'm still in the starter stage of scripting, enough that I can look in scrips and understand what everything does and can edit it (most the time) to something more suited to my needs, but doing it myself? Wouldn't have a clue. So yeah.. I wouldn't have the foggiest idea where to start or what to call to say add the exp bar, move the hub around, or add images to it. The fact also is, I -have- tried to, been trying to for.. few months now been trying to sort out the graphics and edit scrips to my game? The closest so fare is an image that covers the whole of the hp/sp bars rather then go behind them, and still can't get the bars to budge from their default place >.>.

[littleK123]

It is another abs sort of like blizz-abs, but not as awesome!

i checked out XAS and i wanna know if you can
do the show weapon thing with blizz-abs
and on blizz abs when you make a boss and you defeat it how do you make it turn on a swicth?

[Spaceman McConaughey]

It is another abs sort of like blizz-abs, but not as awesome!

i checked out XAS and i wanna know if you can
do the show weapon thing with blizz-abs
and on blizz abs when you make a boss and you defeat it how do you make it turn on a swicth?

Um, of course you can. Did you like, um, even check out the topic, or any BABS games... or anything? Holy shit.

[Ballade]

Idk if this is stil  going on, but heres what I think. Personally I like XAS better. Blizz ABS is good, and i'd use it if i wasnt already too deep into XAS, but its so confusing. When i made an enemy, it ran all over the place, and what i hate about it is that is changes the controls, ik u can fix them back though. XAS is simple and comes with alot of cool addons. I got use to it faster than i tried to do Blizz ABS. XAS can easily make lots of my favorite games or atleast a mimic of them, like Castlevania, Battletoads, Megaman(My current game IS like Megaman) Double Dragon... Micheal Jackson! Blizz ABS can probably do it if u rewire the scripts in a wierd way, but XAS is alooooot easier, which is why I like it better.