None of your rm games will ever be as creative as this.

Started by RoseSkye, December 29, 2009, 07:42:42 pm

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You haven't seen the new CP intro, the battle transition for Nemesis/Hellvoid and Nemesis' dying animation yet.

This is just an intro. Sure, there was a lot of effort put into it. But unless I see a 20 hours game that has graphics and animations of this quality constantly, all I can say is "a few days work" how nice it may look.

Also, putting on a few dancers with a light show isn't really what I would call creative. Fancy yes, creative no.
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December 30, 2009, 07:37:49 am #2 Last Edit: December 30, 2009, 07:43:27 am by RoseSkye
Quote from: Blizzard on December 30, 2009, 07:32:00 am
You haven't seen the new CP intro, the battle transition for Nemesis/Hellvoid and Nemesis' dying animation yet.

This is just an intro. Sure, there was a lot of effort put into it. But unless I see a 20 hours game that has graphics and animations of this quality constantly, all I can say is "a few days work" how nice it may look.

Also, putting on a few dancers with a light show isn't really what I would call creative. Fancy yes, creative no.


Calm down Blizz, I was joking. I still liked it. Also, if having a choreographed dance show in sync with a song made in rpg maker to a song isn't creative then everything is a lie. Keep in mind this guy made/edited all of the sprites in and if you seen any of his other videos you'll see he animates whole cutscenes/ music videos with rm sprites.

Animated Intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0noHyn-eTY

Animated Fight Scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StKy_i56PQQ


Blizzard

December 30, 2009, 08:06:06 am #3 Last Edit: December 30, 2009, 08:14:00 am by Blizzard
Lol, that wasn't a rant. And I never said I didn't like it. xD

As I said, it's not creative, it's fancy. When RMXP skips frame updates, the song gets out of sync, especially when you have a shitload of nice graphics flying around AND recording a screen capture video. So I'm not entirely sure the song and the game are run in the same moment. I'd rather say the game was run separately, then the music was added into the video. I can be wrong, of course.

To be honest, most choreography today is just a copy of a copy of a copy. It's fancy, yes. But it's not that creative.
The only thing that one could call creative here are probably the poses. If he made 10 DIFFERENT sprites doing all those poses, that would be a shitload of work and probably more creative than just one pose with different heads attached. It's just like making a few sprites with a couple of frames and you're set. I mean how many frames are there? 40? 50? Even 100? One normal spriteset has 16 frames which would end up in creating a few spritesets that look almost the same. You know how spriting is. When you have only one direction and need to edit it so it looks slightly different, you can do that in 15 minutes, maybe less. When I first saw the video I thought it took him a week to make the sprites. Now that I thought about it a bit, I'd say it took him a day.
You saw the CP video, right? Do you know how long it took me to make that animated sprite of Jason? An hour, that's how long it took me. 16 frames for 1 animation and it took just an hour. When you have the original sprite, it's not really much of a problem to make it animated.

I'm just trying to say it's nice to see something like this and it definitely looks like there was effort put into it, but I wouldn't say it's that great. I have yet to see an RMXP game that is graphically stunning (which isn't all in just flashy lights and character poses, there's much more to it). Of course nobody who'd actually be ready to put this much effort into graphics would be stupid enough to work in RMXP.

EDIT: Intro looks nice, but it's mostly just scrolling panorama. I did zooming picture like in the beginning in CoSLAL, too. ._. And lol, how it lags!
Battle looks better, though. I wonder if it's all just in sprites or if it's partially scripted (i.e. like the sprite in midair; is he really in midair by script or is it just a spriteset that is offset in the graphic file itself).

Lol, what a waste of talent, better he got into professional game making. xD In any case I'd play the game. It seems to be in the 10% that's decent enough to be playable.
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December 30, 2009, 08:24:18 am #4 Last Edit: December 30, 2009, 08:28:09 am by RoseSkye
The hate is strong in you Blizz. Is it so hard to say something someone else did is nice? I mean, I usually toot my horn every chance I get but, I do recognize his hard work in making the graphics/ pictures. Jeez man, dick move...

Also quoting from his video
Quote1000+ animations

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December 30, 2009, 08:32:26 am #5 Last Edit: December 30, 2009, 08:35:41 am by Blizzard
Uhm...

Quote from: Blizzard on December 30, 2009, 08:06:06 am
I'm just trying to say it's nice to see something like this and it definitely looks like there was effort put into it


The topic title doesn't read "nice looking" and "much work/effort put into it", it says "creative". Those things are not synonyms.

Also:

Quote from: Blizzard on December 30, 2009, 08:06:06 am
I wouldn't say it's that great.


I'm not saying that CP is nice either. CP's a rather ugly game.
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He did a parody of the lucky star intro, however, he is the only one in the youtube RM community/ english rm community that does things like that. I told you it was just a joke title/ hyperbole. The title was just to garner attention just like the stupid news titles that feign non-bias in stupid titles.

Later, none of your rm games will ever be as creative as this. More at eleven.

You'll be curious because I basically insulted your honor. When you looked inside it was basically me saying "haha, look". Anyway, perhaps creative was not the proper word. Original, inventive, or unique would be closer to truth.

Blizzard

December 30, 2009, 04:16:04 pm #7 Last Edit: December 30, 2009, 04:20:59 pm by Blizzard
Eh, if you say so.

I agree with the original part. It was definitely original. He should totally make a strippers bar scene.
Actually I didn't even notice that it was supposed to be a joke title. O_o
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