My PC upgrading (Help).

Started by Futendra, January 04, 2012, 07:16:14 pm

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Futendra

I bought a new graphics card and this is updated, It decreased a lot of lag!

I can now play LoL at full settings.

I still have a question about the RAM limitation.
If I get a 64 bit OS will I be able to get as much as I want? I think not, I thought my Mainboard limited it to 4GB
Also, I found out that about 20% of my programs are not compatible with 64 bit!

ForeverZer0

The programs shouldn't really matter. The only program I have ever used that uses 4 gigs of RAM or more is VM-ware, and that's only after I set it to use that much. Aside from that nothing even comes close.
I am done scripting for RMXP. I will likely not offer support for even my own scripts anymore, but feel free to ask on the forum, there are plenty of other talented scripters that can help you.

Futendra

Quote from: ForeverZer0 on March 04, 2012, 10:49:26 am
The programs shouldn't really matter. The only program I have ever used that uses 4 gigs of RAM or more is VM-ware, and that's only after I set it to use that much. Aside from that nothing even comes close.
I don't mean that 20% uses 4 GB but that 20% is not compatible with 64-bit

ForeverZer0

Thats an awful lot to be incompatible. I honestly can't think of any programs that I lost do to switching to x64. Most programs that are 32-bit work just fine in 64-bit, and USUALLY the few that don't have a 64-bit variation or fix for it.

Are you counting programs that don't work, or programs that aren't made for 64-bit CPUs?
I am done scripting for RMXP. I will likely not offer support for even my own scripts anymore, but feel free to ask on the forum, there are plenty of other talented scripters that can help you.

Futendra

Quote from: ForeverZer0 on March 04, 2012, 11:56:10 am
Thats an awful lot to be incompatible. I honestly can't think of any programs that I lost do to switching to x64. Most programs that are 32-bit work just fine in 64-bit, and USUALLY the few that don't have a 64-bit variation or fix for it.

Are you counting programs that don't work, or programs that aren't made for 64-bit CPUs?


I ran a Windows 7 compatibility check and it turned out that 16,4% doesn't work, It isn't specified, it might be wrong because it's just a program...

ForeverZer0

Yeah, ignore them checks. It was a nice try of Microsoft to make that, but it doesn't really mean anything. RMXP hasn't worked since Vista or later computers according to it, and like I said, and that is more for Windows 7, not just your CPU architecture.
I am done scripting for RMXP. I will likely not offer support for even my own scripts anymore, but feel free to ask on the forum, there are plenty of other talented scripters that can help you.

Futendra

Quote from: ForeverZer0 on March 04, 2012, 12:37:43 pm
Yeah, ignore them checks. It was a nice try of Microsoft to make that, but it doesn't really mean anything. RMXP hasn't worked since Vista or later computers according to it, and like I said, and that is more for Windows 7, not just your CPU architecture.


So RMXP will work? :D

G_G


ForeverZer0

March 04, 2012, 02:50:12 pm #28 Last Edit: March 04, 2012, 02:51:56 pm by ForeverZer0
Let me put it like this: I have yet to find a program that I cannot, under any circumstance, be able to run. Here's the rough breakdown:


  • 99%     - Run fine without anything special, or you only needed to use an existing x64 version

  • 0.75%  - I have to change a property like "Run in compatibility mode for ..."

  • 0.25%  - I use a virtual machine, or since a legal copy of Windows 7 allows you to download a free XP emulator from Microsoft, just use that.


Actually the last one is a lie, because I have never had to do that, but the free XP emulator from Microsoft is true. As you can see there is no problem.
I am done scripting for RMXP. I will likely not offer support for even my own scripts anymore, but feel free to ask on the forum, there are plenty of other talented scripters that can help you.

Futendra

Quote from: ForeverZer0 on March 04, 2012, 02:50:12 pm
Let me put it like this: I have yet to find a program that I cannot, under any circumstance, be able to run. Here's the rough breakdown:


  • 99%     - Run fine without anything special, or you only needed to use an existing x64 version

  • 0.75%  - I have to change a property like "Run in compatibility mode for ..."

  • 0.25%  - I use a virtual machine, or since a legal copy of Windows 7 allows you to download a free XP emulator from Microsoft, just use that.


Actually the last one is a lie, because I have never had to do that, but the free XP emulator from Microsoft is true. As you can see there is no problem.



Is there a way I can backup my installed programs so I don't have to install every single program I use when switching to Windows 7?

ForeverZer0

No, that really doesn't work on any computer unless the program can already run portably.

When you install a program on Windows, it usually installs files in multiple directories. Some common ones are:


  • Obviously the program files folder

  • The horrible Windows registry

  • %AppData%/Local

  • %AppData%/Roaming

  • Program Data



Not to mention any drivers or files it installs in sys32, your drivers folder, and any changes to the hosts file.

If you can track down every possible piece and, put it where it goes on a new operating system that has a different folder structure, modify the registry values to point to the correct places, then yes it will work.  I prefer to just download and reinstall. I reinstall my OS about every 2-3 months for house cleaning, so I keep backups of all my installers on an HDD. I copy a few files out of AppData so I don't have to reconfigure my settings for a few programs, and I've managed to be able to do it and have everything back and running within a few hours.
I am done scripting for RMXP. I will likely not offer support for even my own scripts anymore, but feel free to ask on the forum, there are plenty of other talented scripters that can help you.