Hypocrites, them all!

[tSwitch]

@namk: I'm kinda jealous of women and black people. They get to say whatever they want, yet I have to watch my tongue to make sure I don't say "black," or else I'll get shot.

someone from deviantart got 2 of their deviations removed, because they were racist.
why?
because it was a "white pride" piece of art.
a white background with an irish symbol on it.

the majority is not allowed to have pride, it's racism then.

[RoseSkye]

WcW.. nice. Excuse me of exaggeration.. I hate when I have to make people eat their words.. However, at the same time. I love when I get the chance to boast that if you did some research I wouldn't have to.

*Ahem* The time when I saw the sign.. about 2001, I happened to be 14 at the time. It was a frightening thing because this was a very secluded area. Few homes and what not..  I never said this happened in all places in Mississippi, however, it did happen to me. Telling me I exaggerated is basically saying "LIAR"

Rose is totally exaggerating
People aren't that racist in the world that they would want to kill someone for race.

Of course, if I am a liar.. the White Knights a.k.a (KKK) wouldn't have a division set up in Mississippi. Of course, it is too far fetched to think that a white knight would not be scared to put up a sign to warn 'niggers' that they will kill them in a county where there are NO STREET LIGHTS AND ITS PITCH DARK AT NIGHT!

Tell me WcW do you see any street lights?: ShowHide

How many times do you have to swallow your words when you question me before you think. "Hey, maybe Rose could be serious at times. Maybe he just wanted to tell an experience in agreement that.. hey.. sometimes life is funny" Of course, I don't hold anyone accountable. I don't hold grudges, I told you that. I don't go around blaming everyone with a different skin tone for a few idiots that shouldn't breed. Of course, in your mind you thought that.. "See, he's blaming everyone for a bad experience. He's a fucking liar."

Of course I could site many hate crimes that -recently- happened on both sexual preference and ethnicity (which is why I could NEVER be someone that hates someone else. I have had family executed by racists.. and it was perfectly legal to do so back then. Also,  recently when hate crimes became punishable in the 90's. Of course I would be exaggerating when I say they're dead.. you douchebag).

Edit: I posted the wrong picture of the MS White Knights.. whoops.

[Diokatsu]

Of course I could site many hate crimes that -recently- happened on both sexual preference and ethnicity.

cite*

[RoseSkye]

Of course I could site many hate crimes that -recently- happened on both sexual preference and ethnicity.

cite*

Wow.. I made a typo. Nail me to the cross. You could also point out my incorrect (and excessive) usage of ellipses while you're at it.
Heat of the moment mistake. Bite me.

[Diokatsu]

* Gym Leader Diokatsu bites

I like hypocrites. They're easy to laugh at.

[RoseSkye]

So I'm a hypocrite for friggin telling an experience that really happened to me?
...and defending myself when he says what I said was a 'wee bit hyperbolic' which means 'you're exaggerating'?

I'm not accusing you of lying, I'm just stating that your experience doesn't really represent Mississippi as whole, and that it might have been a wee hyperbolic.

When the hell did they change the meaning of hypocrite?

In my universe hypocrite defines as..

1.    a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2.    a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.


I never pretended that I had a virtue or belief that I don't believe in. I hate when people deny rights to ANYONE, no matter what race out of bigotry and disregard of the constitution.

I didn't feign any approved attitude (and I repeatedly am chastised for my personality.. unrelatedly). I wouldn't say anything that I didn't feel irl in a tl;dr post. (4chan doesn't count because.. in some sick way I find them hilarious. However, I wouldn't approve myself of having a /b/tard friend... that wasn't a cute girl.)

Of course, if you didn't mean that and was addressing my first post. Whoops, however, WcW got under my skin. Not by calling me a racist.. but by calling me a liar and like just because he didn't see it happen it didn't happen. Eh, fuck you buddy.. Fuck you with a TnT dick and Kerosene lubricant.

I saw this coming as soon as WcW told me that

It's not that bad. In the Northeast, we just have people painting penises on stuff.

Oh.. shit maybe he meant Northeast Mississippi as opposed to Southern. Though he did say that I exaggerated..

@namk: I'm kinda jealous of women and black people. They get to say whatever they want, yet I have to watch my tongue to make sure I don't say "black," or else I'll get shot.

^ Also.. that comment reaks of douchebag. STOP GENERALIZING.. fuck. When you make a comment adding a -some- in between words would be helpful to your statement.

Which sounds more douchebag?

"They get to say whatever they want"
"Some of them get to say whatever they want"

[tSwitch]

where is all this arguing coming from?

[RoseSkye]

where is all this arguing coming from?

I'm not accusing you of lying, I'm just stating that your experience doesn't really represent Mississippi as whole, and that it might have been a wee hyperbolic.

To be honest, it arisen before that.. it slipped my mind that there is a 'Northeast Mississippi' in terms. I count Mississippi as one state. So when I read that, I assumed that he meant the entirety of MS instead of where he stays. So yeah.. but, that flustered tl;dr came from when he said that I exaggerated.

Edit: Not a literal Northeast, MS. However.. a MS that people refer to 'Northeast'. At least in my circles.

Edit 2: *Twitch* Fuck.. I'm taking the internet seriously. See this always happens when I know the person that taunts me with experiences. You know.. from now on I'll just ignore WcW. It seems as he's exactly the sort of kryptonite that gets under my skin.

Edit 3: No, I was right. I re-read it and he definitely told me "It's not that bad."
Fucking douche. When I get annoyed about something, I'm unable to think clearly. A personal attack on my integrity is something that flusters me. I'm in no way, shape, or form a liar (especially to people on the internet). So, when someone tells me "You're lying" figuratively. I am unable to analyze the situation clearly and indeed go into -nerd rage-

[tSwitch]

your experience and WcW's apparently have been different.
so...you're both right, and you're both wrong.

Rose, you must just live in a place that's a lot worse than what WcW has seen.  I think all WcW was telling you was not to generalize ALL of a state, based on the area you've lived in/experienced, as all areas of teh state might not be the same.

[RoseSkye]

your experience and WcW's apparently have been different.
so...you're both right, and you're both wrong.

Rose, you must just live in a place that's a lot worse than what WcW has seen.  I think all WcW was telling you was not to generalize ALL of a state, based on the area you've lived in/experienced, as all areas of teh state might not be the same.

Ooh you might have a point...

if I didn't already say...

"How many times do you have to swallow your words when you question me before you think. "Hey, maybe Rose could be serious at times. Maybe he just wanted to tell an experience in agreement that.. hey.. sometimes life is funny" Of course, I don't hold anyone accountable. I don't hold grudges, I told you that. I don't go around blaming everyone with a different skin tone for a few idiots that shouldn't breed. Of course, in your mind you thought that.. 'See, he's blaming everyone for a bad experience. He's a fucking liar.'."

(But Rose that was after he posted that..)

You're right.. wait.. you're still wrong.

My ancestors were slaves.. this was a fact. I don't blame anyone, I don't care about it.. sucks for them. (If there was an afterlife they'd probably kick my ass for that) I don't hold grudges.. its stupid and life is too short. I wasn't raised to hate anyone. I literally didn't know what racism was.. until I moved south. (imagine my surprise when we moved to the south... I've never heard the word 'nigga' in my life let alone nigger.. but I've been called both in the same week. I asked my mom what they were.. then she just slapped the fuck out of me. Later I found out it was a slur. Doesn't really scathe me though because that's kinda like calling me Fatso or something.. just a taunt to get under my skin. No pun intended.)

Right there in the first paragraph. No grudges.

(But Rose you were generalizing)

"How many times do you have to swallow your words when you question me before you think. "Hey, maybe Rose could be serious at times. Maybe he just wanted to tell an experience in agreement that.. hey.. sometimes life is funny" Of course, I don't hold anyone accountable. I don't hold grudges, I told you that.I don't go around blaming everyone with a different skin tone for a few idiots that shouldn't breed. Of course, in your mind you thought that.. 'See, he's blaming everyone for a bad experience. He's a fucking liar.'."

Says right there that I'm not generalizing.. so what is your argument?

[Blizzard]

Hey, Rose, calm down. Nobody is saying anything against you. We're actually on your side here.

I know how it is when extraordinary shit happens to you and everybody is like "it's not that bad". It doesn't matter how bad it is, it matters how you perceive it.
WcW said something stupid by saying "there is no murder or of racism". Bullshit. Many people have been killed because of racism.
And Dio was just being... IDK, he was just being Dio. He didn't mean to insult you or something.

The only two things that are really fucked up about the topic racism is excessive racism and stuff that is shown as racism. Just like NAMK said, we're almost as good as not allowed to say the term "black person" or we're automatically counted as racists. Remember the South Park episode "Naggers"? That's it.
Excessive racism is a problem on itself. Not that "normal" or "average" racism isn't, hatred is always something bad. I'm just saying that excessive racism leads to murders, rapes and such.

I don't think you're a hypocrite if that helps. I think just everybody here somehow stepped the other on the wrong foot because I don't see any intentional insults here. As if everybody misunderstood everybody else's statements. o.o; i.e. IMO what WcW tried to say is that because of racists some people, who aren't even racist, have to suffer because of it. And I guess he wants to say that we all have equal rights regardless of being black, gay, female, etc. We're all humans. We al have human rights.

[tSwitch]

@rose: I'm not accusing you of lying, I'm just stating that your experience doesn't really represent Mississippi as whole, and that it might have been a wee hyperbolic.

jeez...
that started all of this?

Rose are you on a freaking hairpin trigger lately or what?

[RoseSkye]

@rose: I'm not accusing you of lying, I'm just stating that your experience doesn't really represent Mississippi as whole, and that it might have been a wee hyperbolic.

jeez...
that started all of this?

Rose are you on a freaking hairpin trigger lately or what?

Nice try Namkor..

@rose: I'm not accusing you of lying, I'm just stating that your experience doesn't really represent Mississippi as whole, and that it might have been a wee hyperbolic.

Hyperbolic definition: ShowHide

1.  Of, relating to, or employing hyperbole.

Hyperbole definition: ShowHide

a deliberate exaggeration of speech or writing used for effect

Of course, if you had a vocabulary.. you wouldn't have put your foot in your mouth.


@Blizz.

The problem isn't that I think people are against me. The problem is that it was said that -It might have been an exaggeration-
I saw this coming as soon as he said "It wasn't that bad". Which is why I said.

Annnnnnnnyways. This topic isn't about me.. I said what I wanted to say about ~ douchebag bastards. I'm done. I sense a debate coming up that I want to avoid at all costs.

However, he triggered it by calling it an exaggeration. You should know the frustration of having something happen to you and noone believing it happened to you. I cant prove it because there were no photos taken of it. This topic was friggin about jerk hypocrites that forced their will on gay people. I -didn't- want it to become about me. I also didn't want to be seen as a liar.

[tSwitch]

in other words you went on a freaking rampage because he said you might have exaggerated a little?
that's called a hair trigger.

f*ck you, thanks for attacking me for doing nothing, have a nice day.

[RoseSkye]

@Blizz, Addition to statement


Also for the record Blizz, save your speech. I don't have a problem with open racism. I have a problem with condescension. There is a huge line between the two. Open Racism isn't so bad because I know where they stand. However, 'I'm not a racist-condescension' is more annoying because its not saying they're a racist, its trying to say "Can't you see how this comment could be kinda racist?"

@namk: I'm kinda jealous of women and black people. They get to say whatever they want, yet I have to watch my tongue to make sure I don't say "black," or else I'll get shot.

'What? He said that..'
'What do you mean he said that? Of course, I can't say black around black people and women without getting shot'
"Woah, calm down Rose.. And I guess he wants to say that we all have equal rights regardless of being black, gay, female, etc. We're all humans. We al have human rights."

That's not the fucking point, Blizz. Okay let me give you a situation to compare this with.

Let's say you're an orphan. You were born an orphan you cant help it. A douchebag comes and says something douchebag because he wasn't born an orphan.

This orphan hears someone who says something like  "I know how you feel, even though I was born with a family I'm sure it sucks".

the orphan replies "Yeah.. I don't get eat often, I find myself starving and crying myself to sleep because people always accuse me of being a good for nothing thief"

The douchebag replies "It's not that bad. I live near an orphanage and the worst people do is eat sandwiches"

the orphan replies "Believe me or not.. why would I lie?"

The douche replies "I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just saying it may be an exaggeration" (which is calling you a liar) "I'm kinda jealous of Orphans, all orphans do is pickpockets and steal because they don't have a family.  I have to watch my tongue around orphans or I'll be stabbed because they're all angry scum looking for a fight."

the orphan upset, has to some way defend his honor so he shoves -facts- in his face "Of course people wouldn't look down on orphans because they're all seen as bastard children. Anti-Abortionists force women that aren't ready for children to have us and then don't give a flying fuck if we are abandoned by our families. People are not aware of how terrible it is not having a family and think its all coconuts and peaches."

"Woah, Orphan kid, calm down. We're all gods children... I think what he was saying was that people cant say orphans steal without being stabbed by an orphan. We all have rights." (*face palm* What the hell does that have to do with anything)

in other words you went on a freaking rampage because he said you might have exaggerated a little?
that's called a hair trigger.

f*ck you, thanks for attacking me for doing nothing, have a nice day.

Exaggeration definition: ShowHide

    the act of exaggerating or overstating.

exaggerate definition: ShowHide

to magnify beyond the limits of truth

Beyond the limits of truth = a lie.

Lie definition: ShowHide

false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive

hyperbole definition: ShowHide

a deliberate exaggeration of speech or writing used for effect

Holy shit.. Lie and hyperbole are almost synonymous. Both are or can be false statements deliberately used to decieve.. the only difference between a hyperbole and a lie is..

Truth "I went to the store and bumped into a man."
Lie "I went to the store and bumped into a man, The shock forced me into cardiac arrest. I died. "
hyperbole "On my way to the store I bumped into a man. The impact from the shock resonated through my body."

Hyperbole and Lie are both lies.. however lie is more excessive.

I didn't attack you for doing nothing, I attacked you for quoting WcW out of context ignoring the fact that he told me that I had exaggerated. Which is the same as calling me a liar.. if its not I dare you to prove otherwise.

[tSwitch]

He said you might have exaggerated a little, not "you lie, there's no such thing as racism".  Stop looking for a reason to argue and flip out, and calm the fuck down.  You expanded the definition of exaggeration to the point where exaggerating at all is lying, however you're completely neglecting that an embellishment of the truth isn't by its nature a complete and total falsehood, and, in fact, could simply be a result of one's perception of an event.

In other words.  His perception and your perception differed.  And from what he has seen, it wasn't as bad as what you had seen, therefore he said you were exaggerating.  He wasn't calling you a liar, he was saying that from what he saw it wasn't that bad.  Proven.

Also your example of a hyperbole isn't by any means a lie, as the shock from the impact -would- in fact, transfer through your body.  Also your orphan example is terrible, as you're equating being able to say words (freedom of speech) to pickpocketing.  Seriously.

Now go squeeze a stress ball or beat up a punching bag or something and stop flipping out on the forums.

[RoseSkye]

He said you might have exaggerated a little, not "you lie, there's no such thing as racism".  Stop looking for a reason to argue and flip out, and calm the fuck down.  You expanded the definition of exaggeration to the point where exaggerating at all is lying, however you're completely neglecting that an embellishment of the truth isn't by its nature a complete and total falsehood, and, in fact, could simply be a result of one's perception of an event.

In other words.  His perception and your perception differed.  And from what he has seen, it wasn't as bad as what you had seen, therefore he said you were exaggerating.  He wasn't calling you a liar, he was saying that from what he saw it wasn't that bad.  Proven.

Also your example of a hyperbole isn't by any means a lie, as the shock from the impact -would- in fact, transfer through your body.  Also your orphan example is terrible, as you're equating being able to say words (freedom of speech) to pickpocketing.  Seriously.

Now go squeeze a stress ball or beat up a punching bag or something and stop flipping out on the forums.

I love how you completely forget that this isn't about racism, this is about him calling my post an exaggeration.

[tSwitch]

He said you might have exaggerated a little, not "you lie, there's no such thing as racism".  Stop looking for a reason to argue and flip out, and calm the fuck down.  You expanded the definition of exaggeration to the point where exaggerating at all is lying, however you're completely neglecting that an embellishment of the truth isn't by its nature a complete and total falsehood, and, in fact, could simply be a result of one's perception of an event.

In other words.  His perception and your perception differed.  And from what he has seen, it wasn't as bad as what you had seen, therefore he said you were exaggerating.  He wasn't calling you a liar, he was saying that from what he saw it wasn't that bad.  Proven.


Also your example of a hyperbole isn't by any means a lie, as the shock from the impact -would- in fact, transfer through your body.  Also your orphan example is terrible, as you're equating being able to say words (freedom of speech) to pickpocketing.  Seriously.

Now go squeeze a stress ball or beat up a punching bag or something and stop flipping out on the forums.

[RoseSkye]

He said you might have exaggerated a little, not "you lie, there's no such thing as racism".  Stop looking for a reason to argue and flip out, and calm the fuck down.  You expanded the definition of exaggeration to the point where exaggerating at all is lying, however you're completely neglecting that an embellishment of the truth isn't by its nature a complete and total falsehood, and, in fact, could simply be a result of one's perception of an event.

In other words.  His perception and your perception differed.  And from what he has seen, it wasn't as bad as what you had seen, therefore he said you were exaggerating.  He wasn't calling you a liar, he was saying that from what he saw it wasn't that bad.  Proven.


Also your example of a hyperbole isn't by any means a lie, as the shock from the impact -would- in fact, transfer through your body.  Also your orphan example is terrible, as you're equating being able to say words (freedom of speech) to pickpocketing.  Seriously.

Now go squeeze a stress ball or beat up a punching bag or something and stop flipping out on the forums.

(What I meant to edit in)
My orphan example isn't terrible because that orphan doesn't stab people/ pickpocket.. and I DONT SHOOT PEOPLE WHO SAY THAT I AM BLACK. I don't even own a fucking gun.

You must have some kind of foot toothpaste or love the taste of your own foot in your mouth.

Shock definition.. in the tense I applied: ShowHide

  Something that jars the mind or emotions as if with a violent unexpected blow.

Alright then.. The shock resonating through the body was meant to be be a dramatic exaggeration.
I dare you to read all my posts before you say anything else. Read every tl;dr post and tell me when I 'flipped' out. Other than tried to prove that my words may have had merit.

Of course you wont understand that maybe if I told someone..

"Man.. all gay people like raping straight men. We should be afraid of gay people or letting them marry because they're gay."

A gay person wouldn't say

"Hey, you're wrong. We normally don't go for straight people or try to force our will on straight people. We're typical everyday people.. only difference is.. we like the same sex. Now I understand, there might be other people who do rape and kill straight people that happen to be gay.. but please don't lump us all together."

That's like me saying.

"A guy didn't get beaten and left to die on a fence by two straight guys. It's not that bad. The worse that happens here is people say 'That's gay'"

of course a gay person would correct me and say

"That's untrue! There have been many gay hate crimes that resulted in the death of gays. This isn't a matter where I could exaggerate because hits close to home"


Of course, you can't realize how FOOLISH your argument is because I'm "over-reacting" when I get annoyed that someone would tell me that "Its not that bad" "You may be exaggerating" when I tell something that actually happened to me.

You wouldn't see how much I look down on ANYONE who couldn't see why someone would try to defend their honor when in reality they wanted to share a story.. thats it.. just share a story of an experience.

Like saying to a rape victim

"It's not that bad, the worst people do here is have sex with their spouses"

and the rape victim retorting

"You FOOL, rape is an all but common thing 'According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, which includes crimes that were not reported to the police, 232,960 women in the U.S. were raped or sexually assaulted in 2006. That's more than 600 women every day'. Now I understand some people have sex but don't lump us all together."


Namkor, you FOOL making childsplay over me wanting to defend an experience that frightened me as a child.
Of course, there is no feasible way to have a reasonable debate with you guys because you rely on opinion more than fact. It's depressing.

You know what.. I'm done here. Until youz guys gain some sort of I.Q. and become able to decipher why I am addressing WcW. Until youz guys can see how I wouldn't like it that someone threatened me not to be out in night time or I'll be killed.. and it could be something I would be annoyed by if someone nonchalantly said "That's an exaggeration.. if you went outside in pitch black dark in a place where there is a KKK division you wouldn't be killed." You are as competent as children in my eyes.

[tSwitch]

can you not grasp the concept of perception at all?
What you saw and what WcW saw could be very very different, and result in a difference of opinion or a difference in view of severity of the situation.

How many times do I have to say it?

Jesus christ.