Dissipate (A Blizz-ABS example game)

Started by winkio, January 21, 2009, 11:27:06 pm

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computerwizoo7

February 13, 2009, 04:28:52 pm #160 Last Edit: February 13, 2009, 04:32:59 pm by computerwizoo7
@Blizz:
You just said It!!!!

@Winkio:
anyway, if you have any probs with the graphics then just ask me alright, i want to see how good a blizz abs game can be, i can sprite too, just ask for whatever you want.

Edit:
do you have a title screen yet?

Landith

@Cw7: Yes, Winkio made his own Title Screen which looks very nice I might add.

This is looking good Winkio, like Calintz, I can't wait for the demo to come out.

Calintz


computerwizoo7

Its good!!! BUT i can make it better!
Mwhahaha! just give me the go ahead and its finished!
it will look so good, you will think its 3D!

Calintz

February 13, 2009, 07:35:11 pm #164 Last Edit: February 13, 2009, 07:37:36 pm by Calintz16438
I think you may be way too over-confident Compute...
- I mean...I don't want to hurt your feelings, but your character designs aren't all that great themselves...

How old are you?

@Winkio:
I think your title is good of course, but I also think that some improvements could be made...It is a really nice design though, don't get me wrong...

winkio

Oh yeah, I told you all that it wasn't finished.  I still have to add depth and glow to the little energy matrix thingy.  Which means that I will handle it myself.  When it is finished, I'll put it in the first post :)

Calintz

I am really looking forward to it Winkio!!
I am excited!! Don't let us down!! I can't stress that enough!!

computerwizoo7

Man, this is like a classic movie,
Don't let me down.... please... noooo!!!!
Winkio, you should try using different tones or shades of purple if that is what you want, also if you give it a glow then don't spread it out, center it and keep it purple and not too bright.
I like your enthusiasm winkio!  and i will be the judge of the title screen image!

winkio

I was just discussing this with Aqua via PMs, and wanted to know what you all thought:

The original intent of this game was for it to be completely unencrypted, meaning that all resources/scripts/everything could be used.  Now, with the growing number of custom sprites and icons, I am feeling pressure from the artists to encrypt at least their part of it.  The main goal is to keep the scripts, configuration, and events unencrypted so that people can learn how to use Blizz-ABS. Here are the options:

1.  Completely unencrypted: all the hard work of artists is pilfered by the masses =/  At least there is better quality stuff out there this way.
2.  Encrypt only the graphic resources.  There are a few problems with this, mainly that vital parts of the hud and menu are included.  Also, this would conflict with an
     unencrypted project file.
3.  Create a duplicate project file and only include default sprites, just so that people can see how everything is set up.
4.  At the end, create documentation of how I set up everything.  The problems with this are a) people fail at reading (The manual, for example) and b) it would take a while.

Landith

I would go with 2 or 3 for those artists who don't want there work to be stolen, etc...
Although I was really looking foward to using your bow as a template to make my own bow... Oh well, that way everyone is happy. :)

Aqua

I wouldn't mind the people of CP using the graphics because I know they'd credit...
but... outside people... I'm not too sure =/

Besides... if everyone used those graphics, then they won't be original anymore! D:

Calintz

I say go with choice #1...

If those were the original intentions, then people knew that their resources were at risk when they signed up to help. Besides...if people plan on making their game unique, they ill create new resources "specifically" for their game...

I say, let the masses absorb this stuff and use it. Those who wish to make their game unique will stand out as the true artists...

I know for a fact, that I won't use the resources I am making for this game .. .. ..

winkio

February 14, 2009, 12:37:05 am #172 Last Edit: February 14, 2009, 12:46:19 am by winkio
I guess the question really becomes:  Is this game simply a demo of the possibilities of Blizz-ABS, or is it actually a reference for those who need help with the system?

If its just a demo of possibilities, then I'd say encryption is fine.  Otherwise, we need some sort of reference material.  I had originally planned for complete unencryption, as I said, but I understand the artists concerns, and they will have the final say.  Nevertheless, I would like to know your opinions as well, because if there is overwhelming support for unencryption, it will either convince the artists to share their work or convince me to try and create some resources that can be distributed.  Just an FYI, it is fairly easy to rip icons in game...

Calintz

You can rip most any graphics with the Screenshot command and a photo editor...

winkio

yes, but icons are easiest.  Animated sprites that need perfect positioning are much more difficult.

Landith

And attack sprites would be even harder...

I would ask Blizz if he could make it were only registered members of CP could download the unencrypted version of the game to prevent graphic stealing and have an encrypted version for non-members.
Or put it under a common thingy to prevent anyone claiming them as theirs and have to give appropiate credit, whatever Blizz uses for his scripts.
Besides, people could use the graphics but they wouldn't create an original game with it and I know I won't be using the graphics, just the weapons as a template.

shdwlink1993

I personally would go with either option 1 or 2. Unless I'm very mistaken, it is possible to "expose" parts of your game and not expose others.
Stuff I've made:




"Never think you're perfect or else you'll stop improving yourself."

"Some people say the glass is half full... some half empty... I just wanna know who's been drinking my beer."

Calintz

@Landith:
The Creative Commons License...

I don't know if Blizzard can do that? Is that possible? Make only registered CP members have access I mean.

Aqua

Only if Blizz hosts it on his server.
Then he should be able to make it so that only those who are logged in (and maybe some other reqs) can d/l the unencrypted.

shdwlink1993

I know of some forums that use something like that for ALL their download links. The trick is can Blizz make only that one link invisible to non-registered people? He might have to make a new tag, like [NOGUEST] or something.
Stuff I've made:




"Never think you're perfect or else you'll stop improving yourself."

"Some people say the glass is half full... some half empty... I just wanna know who's been drinking my beer."