still under some construction 3d rpg maker

Started by nathmatt, March 17, 2009, 04:44:35 pm

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March 17, 2009, 05:25:57 pm #1 Last Edit: March 17, 2009, 05:31:00 pm by Blizzard
"The Future of Games Development" certainly doesn't look like this. This is how the next generation of horribly bad amateur RPGs looks like.
Also, 3D games require multiple times more effort. Most people can't even finish a simple 2D RPG in RMXP using the RTP. I wonder what makes people think they can pull off a fully fledged 3D game... I'd rather play a properly made 2D game than a horribly made 3D game. I can't but notice the horrible level design in the screenshots. :/ Looks like somebody just got RMXP and tried to make a map, just all of it in 3D.

I mean sure, it looks nice and all... But a nice and interesting looking program won't make you a good game designer. If you really want to make a 3D game, learn programming. There are tons of more powerful and more customizable 3D engines out there. Just take Ogre for example. Or XNA. I haven't worked with XNA yet, but with Ogre you can pretty much make an exact clone of Oblivion. That's what the engine is capable of.

Just my two cents as professional game developer and over 3 years of experience in the RM community. >.<

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Agreed with you Blizz.  The only reason that I'm not making a 3D Legend of Zelda OoT sequel right now is because

1)  I don't know of a good free/low cost engine
2)  I wouldn't have a clue of getting exact or similar models for characters and environment
3)  So much time which I do not have it takes to single-handedly make a zelda game...

Anyways, 3D amateur games don't work, especially RPGs, when they are made with a generic noob engine.  Some can attempt to make decent 2D games with no game design knowledge or skill, but you really should have it for 3D.

I like the simplicity of 2D.  There is no way that you will ever be able to make a game so easily in 3d, unless you have a game specific engine, like a zelda engine, or an elder scrolls engine that comes with full character models, textures, and everything.

Diokatsu

Quote from: Blizzard on March 17, 2009, 05:25:57 pm
"The Future of Games Development" certainly doesn't look like this. This is how the next generation of horribly bad amateur RPGs looks like.
Also, 3D games require multiple times more effort. Most people can't even finish a simple 2D RPG in RMXP using the RTP. I wonder what makes people think they can pull off a fully fledged 3D game... I'd rather play a properly made 2D game than a horribly made 3D game. I can't but notice the horrible level design in the screenshots. :/ Looks like somebody just got RMXP and tried to make a map, just all of it in 3D.

I mean sure, it looks nice and all... But a nice and interesting looking program won't make you a good game designer. If you really want to make a 3D game, learn programming. There are tons of more powerful and more customizable 3D engines out there. Just take Ogre for example. Or XNA. I haven't worked with XNA yet, but with Ogre you can pretty much make an exact clone of Oblivion. That's what the engine is capable of.

Just my two cents as professional game developer and over 3 years of experience in the RM community. >.<

Anybody else?


Thanks Arch0wl. Good to know that Blitzkrieg posting still exists. I love how you totally left me as a viable source of input. :V:

Looks kinda like Morrowind's shitty old editor.

fugibo

HERE'S FOR A BRIGHT FUTURE WHERE I CAN ACTUALLY CODE WORTH A CRAP AND FINALLY GET SOME EFFING WORK DONE IN OPENRPG!!!!!

And blah. I think he fails to realize that Enterbrain has actually made like 5 of those for the PS2  :wacko:

G_G

I tried it and it wasnt any good at all. The only thing you can do is edit and test it. With limited graphics for tiles that and you cant edit anything theres no enemies or battles or anything an rpg has except movement. Though it is still under construction so who knows.

winkio

Blizz, I looked up OGRE, and it looks epic.  I'm downloading now.  It will definitely be a relief to work with an actual engine and coding language that isn't so constricted and laggy :)

Sally

Quote from: Blizzard on March 17, 2009, 05:25:57 pm
"The Future of Games Development" certainly doesn't look like this. This is how the next generation of horribly bad amateur RPGs looks like.
Also, 3D games require multiple times more effort. Most people can't even finish a simple 2D RPG in RMXP using the RTP. I wonder what makes people think they can pull off a fully fledged 3D game... I'd rather play a properly made 2D game than a horribly made 3D game. I can't but notice the horrible level design in the screenshots. :/ Looks like somebody just got RMXP and tried to make a map, just all of it in 3D.

I mean sure, it looks nice and all... But a nice and interesting looking program won't make you a good game designer. If you really want to make a 3D game, learn programming. There are tons of more powerful and more customizable 3D engines out there. Just take Ogre for example. Or XNA. I haven't worked with XNA yet, but with Ogre you can pretty much make an exact clone of Oblivion. That's what the engine is capable of.

Just my two cents as professional game developer and over 3 years of experience in the RM community. >.<

Anybody else?


i agree with you blizz, but i think that the 3d engins are made for people who are serious in makeing a 3d game. but yeah i agree, if you hwant to make a proffesional 3d gae y ou should learn to pprogram.

Blizzard

Yeah. You can do a lot more with a more customizable engine.

@winkio: You can use Ogre in a variety of languages. Java, C++, C#, VB, Python, etc. :)
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QuoteI'd rather play a properly made 2D game than a horribly made 3D game.


QuoteAnyways, 3D amateur games don't work, especially RPGs, when they are made with a generic noob engine.  Some can attempt to make decent 2D games with no game design knowledge or skill, but you really should have it for 3D.

I like the simplicity of 2D.  There is no way that you will ever be able to make a game so easily in 3d, unless you have a game specific engine, like a zelda engine, or an elder scrolls engine that comes with full character models, textures, and everything.


My thoughts (or close enough).

QuoteYeah. You can do a lot more with a more customizable engine.


The same applies for 2D too I guess. I still haven't come up with a proper architecture to use with PyGame... So far, it's just a programming language with shortcut codes for controlling media, but that gives me the freedom of design.
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Blizzard

Yeah, but nobody cares if you make a crappy 2D game. But people WILL be bashing you if you attempt a 3D game and fail. There are higher expectations to fulfill since professionals today preferably use 3D.
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I've seen this.
It looks terrible, even gameplay videos look like crap.

It's a good work of programming, but nothing will come of it.


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Tazero

I'm sorry , this system is looking like a crappy version of the console RPG maker....


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RoseSkye

I'm sorry but games like that usually make me gag. It's like I'm forcing myself to play it.

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*does as told* She liked it. What now? Hey, wait! EASY THERE! HEY! NO! I ONLY TOUCHED YOU! I DON'T WANT SEX WITH YOU! HEY!

... Women... All they think about is sex. ._.;

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Quote from: Blizzard on March 22, 2009, 03:54:41 pm
*does as told* She liked it. What now? Hey, wait! EASY THERE! HEY! NO! I ONLY TOUCHED YOU! I DON'T WANT SEX WITH YOU! HEY!

... Women... All they think about is sex. ._.;

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[2cents]Okay. Uh.. let's see. If they want to be the next generation of Rpg Maker they should work on alternating camera angles. I don't care if a game is 3d or not but adding that function in would revolutionize amateur rpg making.[/2cents]

Landith

Well, I'm sure if they add in that function it would be good, but it would mainly be over-used in lots of games and would get old... :/

RoseSkye

Quote from: Landith on March 22, 2009, 04:06:48 pm
Well, I'm sure if they add in that function it would be good, but it would mainly be over-used in lots of games and would get old... :/


[4cents]It wouldn't get that old. PoV is used in alot of movies.. (all movies/tv shows) and to be honest it wouldn't be that attractive if it was just one PoV anywhos, yo.[/4cents]