Showdown (of) the ABS's. Blizz ABS demo uploaded. Screenshots added.

Started by RoseSkye, April 13, 2009, 03:31:09 am

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RoseSkye

While getting bored of working on the same game (FOOOOOOOOOOREVER) I read through the XAS vs Blizz ABS thread.

While it's pretty humorous seeing the extremities that one would go to defend an ABS.. it does serve a point. Since I've used the majority of ABS's on RMXP I know my way around each one of them. So to settle the argument once and for all.. I will make a twenty minute example demo with each one of the ABS systems I've installed on my comp.

NeoABS [/b] - Disqualified due to glitchy handling of refreshing health.
RTH ABS - Download v1.3 here (Warning: You may have to manually apply event systems to mimic some battles in this game.)
Behemoth ABS
Blizz ABS Download Here
Prexus ABS
Realistic ABS
FFXII ABS
XAS

Blizz ABS screens
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RTH ABS screens

Spoiler: ShowHide




On top of giving me experience to help me in my game making this will exonerate any bias that lingers towards ABS's.
As somoene that used almost every ABS out there I've found that BLIZZABS is one of the most compatible and simplistic public ABS's in existence.


The self imposed Rules for myself?

I have a week and three days to complete 8 acceptable demos which are similar however different.
I can not use any ideas that I've come up with in the past.
The demos must be fun and challenging
RTP Heroes are not allowed
RTP Tilesets are mandatory
I am not allowed to use any Add ons that can't be accomplished by eventing


If you approve of this "contest" between ABS's you may sign up as a judge.

The rules for judges are

You rate the games from 1 to 10 in each of the categories.
         
Playability
Visuals
Replayability
and of course the amount of fun you've had.

The victor of this contest will have this contest as a reference.
Since I'm basically competing against myself I can't show bias towards one ABS which ensures that it'll be a fair competition.

Fantasist

Good idea :)

QuotePlayability
Visuals
Replayability
and of course the amount of fun you've had.


But re-playability doesn't judge the ABS, it judges the game right..?
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RoseSkye

Quote from: Mirage on April 13, 2009, 05:11:09 am
Good idea :)

QuotePlayability
Visuals
Replayability
and of course the amount of fun you've had.


But re-playability doesn't judge the ABS, it judges the game right..?


Since the game is based on an ABS's capabilities.. it leaves one wondering.

I started on NeoABS's demo already.

Sally

wow... 8games in 1week. your... Super Rose!!

tSwitch

why is this in news?
this isn't site news.

I'd move it to RMXP, but I don't mod in this forum -_-


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Alright...I know where I'm needed...sheesh guys, the point of being a moderator is NOT to have any work...giving a mod work = BAAAAAD

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Blizzard

April 13, 2009, 04:46:44 pm #6 Last Edit: April 13, 2009, 04:47:51 pm by Blizzard
I'd sign up as a judge, but I don't want anybody to say that the contest had biased judges. I know that Blizz-ABS will probably win anyway. xD But seriously, Blizz-ABS does have a very good chance of winning. I'll be looking forward to te games and the results.

Also, are you sure that 10 days are enough for 8 games?

Quote from: Foxy on April 13, 2009, 09:58:17 am
why is this in news?
this isn't site news.

I'd move it to RMXP, but I don't mod in this forum -_-


Fixed.

Quote from: LovelyAngel27 on April 13, 2009, 01:15:44 pm
Alright...I know where I'm needed...sheesh guys, the point of being a moderator is NOT to have any work...giving a mod work = BAAAAAD


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April 13, 2009, 07:08:36 pm #8 Last Edit: April 13, 2009, 07:10:22 pm by RoseSkye
First game

NeoABS -

Pro's with NeoABS
Enemy Events can attack other Enemies

... that's about it.

Cons with NeoABS
Inability to refresh properly giving enemies invincibility - meaning that an enemy with 2500 health has 99999 health.. even if you don't want it to -.-. I'm really trying to work my way around this con but if I give the enemy low health they will be 1 hit and if I give them more than low health they will be invincible.. this ABS is almost unmanageable.

I almost feel like disqualifying this ABS due to the fact it is impossibly glitchy... infact I am going to disqualify this ABS.


fugibo

Wow. +1 for all other ABSs by default :P

I think you should keep a scorecard on all of the ABSes as you go along, in this topic -- you know, just show everyone some pros and cons as you experience them. As you do this, you should be able to experience pretty much all the differences :P

Sally

April 13, 2009, 07:58:40 pm #10 Last Edit: April 13, 2009, 10:28:15 pm by Richard
wow thats one hell of a bug...

edit:

you should rename this topic, to like

'Super rose's Challenge!'

SexualHerassIs

Banned for Sexual Harrassment, that's a first.  Well..  I guess that disqualifies me from the contest.

Ah well.. Last post and I'm outta' here mang.

RTH ABS Contest game

Pros -
Combo system, summon system, etc

Cons -
Animations aren't shrunken down for map use.. so I've to do it manually.
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The example game itself..

It's called Malice: The taste of Freedom.
The protagonist is Neora Lee. An immortal that has no age. He constantly alters ages involuntarily (unless you hold down enter while he's changing ages).

Each age class has its pros and cons

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Adult Neora
Strong and tank worthy. Able to unleash a 6 hit combo (with his Guardian summoned he'll unleash a 9 hit combo)

Cons
Unable to deal with magic users and formless enemies

Juvenile Neora

Pros
Balanced with no weaknesses

Cons
Balanced with no strengths


Child Neora

Pros
Low health

Cons
High evasion and able to stun enemies.


It is fully an ABS that deals with stages as opposed to world maps. To see what I have so far click here.

I'm going to go buy a pizza now.. since I'm banned I don't have any reason to finish the example games.
I guess I'll go back to workin' on M.A.G.
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Here is my opinion about the A.B.S.'s

Blizz, RTH, and FFXII ABS are my favorites of the ones mentioned

Realistic and Prexus ABS are slightly higher than XAS


Above all.. I absolutely abhor XAS and NeoABS.

Starrodkirby86

April 14, 2009, 04:39:03 pm #12 Last Edit: April 14, 2009, 04:40:22 pm by Starholekirby86
Sounds very good with your progress. Not surprised at all that you despise XAS, haha. Look at that debate. Though apparently, it's supposed to be pretty powerful, the strength of XAS I mean.

Now...the main subject I'm going for, which I'm sure you fully understand, is more on your ban. You're avoiding it by creating a duplicate account. This is actually unacceptable. I believe the last time a case like this happened, the person offended obtained an IP ban as well. Sucks, I know. I'll unfortunately have to follow those rules.

I cannot delete accounts unfortunately, so this account will get banned as well. I'm sorry for any inconvenience this provides. If you ever read this however, if you ever can, haha...Um, please contact us if you want your progress with the contest. This is ever so minor, especially your sexual harassment, so I can cut out a deal.

I'm not locking this thread though. Go wild.

EDIT: It'll be done later. So you're able to do a few things before you continue the punishment, haha.

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RoseSkye

Quote from: Starrodkirby86 on April 14, 2009, 04:39:03 pm
Sounds very good with your progress. Not surprised at all that you despise XAS, haha. Look at that debate. Though apparently, it's supposed to be pretty powerful, the strength of XAS I mean.

Now...the main subject I'm going for, which I'm sure you fully understand, is more on your ban. You're avoiding it by creating a duplicate account. This is actually unacceptable. I believe the last time a case like this happened, the person offended obtained an IP ban as well. Sucks, I know. I'll unfortunately have to follow those rules.

I cannot delete accounts unfortunately, so this account will get banned as well. I'm sorry for any inconvenience this provides. If you ever read this however, if you ever can, haha...Um, please contact us if you want your progress with the contest. This is ever so minor, especially your sexual harassment, so I can cut out a deal.

I'm not locking this thread though. Go wild.

EDIT: It'll be done later. So you're able to do a few things before you continue the punishment, haha.



@my not being able to read the topic..
Of course I'm able to read the topic. Even if I didn't have a dynamic IP address that I can change by unplugging my router..
IP Proxies Addresses would have been fine too

Of course I didn't actually care much about my being banned nor am I a CP fanatic to actually hide and keep posting.
There are like seven people here that post on average. I thought I liked this place because I could goof around however when I noticed that people actually take the internet seriously I kinda lost the urge to want to post here.


@Haha's
I suppose its funny to you, eh? I guess thats the sound you make when you want to get on someones bad side.
I admit, it worked.

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@On topic
I lost the urge to complete this project as soon as I've been banned. So it's safe to lock this thread.

Sally


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Starrodkirby86

April 19, 2009, 04:11:17 pm #16 Last Edit: April 19, 2009, 07:51:08 pm by Starrodkirby86
Then so be it...

I understand if you got pissed from what I said, but it was unintentionally a one-way-route to anger and all. I mean, I wasn't even trying to make you get pissed off, but unfortunately, that's how things stood out. I played the wrong cards, look what muck I came into.

Some people do take the Internet seriously. I, on the other hand, don't really take the Internet seriously. =/ Blame the people that were just all sensitive and love all that e-drama bits.

The "Hahas" was not meaning that I'm believing it's all a joke to me, or a game whatever you may call it. It's just something I say (At least recently) to bring out more of a positive note. It's just syonymous with a 'lol', but I don't like using 'lol' in proper forum posting like this.

The thread's been locked now. =/ But I guess we'll know the winner of this even if it doesn't ensue.... :^_^':

EDIT: Consider this post a sincere apology. Now that was my intent here. :P

EDIT2: Thread unlocked. Rose is continuing the project (I believe). We're cool now. :3

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RoseSkye



Jeez man.. since I was slacking off for the beginning of the week I'm not sure if I can finish the project on friday.. however I'll still upload what I have so far on friday. Mucho Apologies.

I'm back yo'. MWAHAHAHAHA!

Sally

maybe give youself a few more days to finish it?

RoseSkye