Boss Battle Competition [Non-ABS][XP]

[Reno-s--Joker]

Boss Battle Competition (Non-ABS and RMXP)

Create the ultimate boss battle scene! Spawned indirectly from http://forum.chaos-project.com/index.php?topic=2737.0. ^-^

Rules and Information

YOU CAN:
- Use events, skills and ANY scripts you wish
- Have multiple staged battles if you want
- Use RTP resources or use your own resources instead
- Include SHORT cutscenes if you want
- Have a low level boss and characters if you want (i.e. not final boss style)
- Make your characters have freaking awesome powers (- Please! xD)
- Make it not serious if you want

YOU CANNOT:
- Have more than one team member. Note that this does not count resources and custom scripts.
- Have glitches!
- Have more than one boss* (although it can take several forms)
* If you choose to do this, you cannot have several forms.
- Have a game which lasts for longer than 5 minutes (minus the time taken for the battle, of course)
- Have cutscenes which are more interesting than the battle
- ... enter, Blizzard - you'd win

ABSOLUTE BARE MINIMUM EXAMPLE:
- Game launches straight into a battle scene.

Judging and Criteria

I will accept three judges. Judges must have good enough internet to DL entries, enough time to play through them, a lack of bias, etc, etc. We will contact each other via PM on this forum or MSN if you want (but I'd rather not). I am a semi-judge (since my internet is so damn temperamental >_>)

Current Judges:
#1: game_guy
#2: UltaFlame
#3: Seox

I'm open to better criteria suggestions and I'll write up a proper list for judges but at the moment...

Challenge:
   Strategy (how interesting)
   Length (too short/too long/just right)
   Attempts (too easy/impossible/awesome)

Creativity:
   Boss design (how creative)
   Boss skills (suitability/uniqueness)

Equipment:
   Levels (too low/too high/match boss)
   Skills/Abilities (how awesome)

Aesthetics:
   Visuals (how interesting)
   Graphics (how pretty)

Bonus points:
   Lulz OR Epic Wows
   Unique ideas for scenario
   If you bribe the judges with munneh

Deductions (although they are minor):
   Glitches encountered
   Cliches
   Breaking any of the rules

Entering

Please enter! It's really short and the time limit is aaaggesss! *puppy eyes*

Time Limit:
Until the end of my (currently failing) hiatus!
i.e. Wednesday, 4th November
I will be lenient on the day because I can't be bothered converting timezones.

Sending the Files:
MAX FILE SIZE of 12MB (zipped). Please compress the game data first. Then PM the people on the judges list (and me) with a link to your uploaded game file.
Please: no early submissions unless something really weird and terrible is about to happen. o__o

Signup:
Copy and paste this and fill it in and I will try and update this post whenever I get back:

[b]#<ENTRY NUMBER>:[/b] <USERNAME>

The above assumes that you are a Chaos Project Forum member. So sign up if you are lurking!!

Current Signups:
#01: Starrodkirby86
#02: Aqua
#03: Valcos
#04: Sally [VX]
#05: shdwlink1993

Just post here saying so if you want to opt out.

Prize

Winner receives fame and glory and Reno will be added to your fanbase. Winner will also receive a free, full-colour drawing request of whatever the duck they want (actually, only human-like things please... >_<) from Reno in manga-esque style. Sorry I can't offer anything else. D: Open for negotiations.

[Calintz]

Cool ...

[Starrodkirby86]

I would like to ENTER this contest.

#01: Starrodkirby86

EDIT: I do hope this contest will allow me to show what potential skills I might have in RPG Maker. Though perhaps the limitations within the editor or the limitations with my scripting skills can hinder the chances of winning.

EDIT2: Can you get outside help?

[Aqua]

Interesting...
Very interesting...

Would bosses that summon count as more than 1 boss?

[Reno-s--Joker]

I would like to ENTER this contest.

#01: Starrodkirby86

EDIT: I do hope this contest will allow me to show what potential skills I might have in RPG Maker. Though perhaps the limitations within the editor or the limitations with my scripting skills can hinder the chances of winning.

EDIT2: Can you get outside help?

WOOHOOO!!! It certainly is supposed to allow you to show off!
And to answer your second edit,

YOU CANNOT:
- Have more than one team member. Note that this does not count resources and custom scripts.

When I wrote that I was thinking that yes, you could have a friend make all the graphics or scripts for you but not compile it together (it's basically the same as leeching all the resources off the internet), if you know what I mean... yeah I admit it's rather vague... o_O. So... yes, you can.

Interesting...
Very interesting...

Would bosses that summon count as more than 1 boss?

Wow that would be a great idea! I guess not!

[Aqua]

When I read the first 4 words of the first post again...

I deflated .___.

And had to throw aaaaallll my ideas out the window.

*won't sign up until I have an idea*

[Reno-s--Joker]

Oh noes. D:

Well, I honestly do hope you sign up eventually. I have a feeling you'd make an awesome entry.

I'm going to look at the success of this competition and then probably post an ABS one later depending on it.

[Blizzard]

YOU CANNOT:
- ... enter, Blizzard - you'd win

LOL!

[G_G]

Can I be a judge please?

EDIT:
Welcome back reno <3

[fugibo]

Boss Battles can't really be "Too Long," the longer they are the more fun they get -- that is, unless they're really simple and just have an exorbitant amount of HP.

[Aqua]

YOU CANNOT:
- Have more than one boss (although it can take several forms)

Would it count if that one boss consisted of two enemies?
Since when someone says, "Oh, there's a boss coming up," it's not always just one enemy in that one boss...

Lol... if I'm allowed to do this... then I have an idea.
If not...
Back to the thinking board @.@

[Ryex]

Boss Battles can't really be "Too Long," the longer they are the more fun they get -- that is, unless they're really simple and just have an exorbitant amount of HP.

- Have a game which lasts for longer than 5 minutes (minus the time taken for the battle, of course)

point nullified when he said too long he ment you cant have more than five minents worth of playtime outside of the battle meaning, this is about the battle NOT you cut scene skills.

[Aqua]

Boss Battles can't really be "Too Long," the longer they are the more fun they get -- that is, unless they're really simple and just have an exorbitant amount of HP.

- Have a game which lasts for longer than 5 minutes (minus the time taken for the battle, of course)

point nullified when she said too long she ment you cant have more than five minents worth of playtime outside of the battle meaning, this is about the battle NOT you cut scene skills.

Fixed.  Reno's a girl

[Ryex]

lol sorry Reno

[Blizzard]

Lol, we love you anyway. <3

I was thinking (not really, I've had a few drinks). Using just any script... Wouldn't that be that you are allowed to use scripts where you are allowed to cheat? Aka win-battle-on-button-press or debug menu scripts. What do you think?

[Starrodkirby86]

Such scripts like that can easily bend battling rules. Penalties might occur. Of course, if they're hidden, then it isn't that much of a problem. However, I'm sure we have to send the project unencrypted...

Is there a point in finding all the loopholes in the rules? I'm sure if you follow the system as applied to me without taking advantage or exploiting a miswritten rule, then we'll have a fun contest.

[Vell]

hum... I'm not good at making Battles or anything. I'm no good - period - with RMXP... but I'll judge! I might need to DL some stuff...

[Reno-s--Joker]

Boss Battles can't really be "Too Long," the longer they are the more fun they get -- that is, unless they're really simple and just have an exorbitant amount of HP.

Yeah, I had a lot of trouble deciding the wording for that... I know that battles which feel like they overkilled on the length factor usually feel like that because of other things such as strategy as you mentioned. Hmm. :| *needs more time to think*

YOU CANNOT:
- Have more than one boss (although it can take several forms)

Would it count if that one boss consisted of two enemies?
Since when someone says, "Oh, there's a boss coming up," it's not always just one enemy in that one boss...

Lol... if I'm allowed to do this... then I have an idea.
If not...
Back to the thinking board @.@

I'm a little stuck on whether to say yes or no straight... second opinion anyone? D: See, my problem is one stage of Kefka's battle (in FFVI) had like... several bits you could hit (technically several enemies). Actually this happens alot in other games. Hmm.
Okay, I guess there's no harm in allowing this. But just to make it fair, I think I'll say if you wish to choose this option, then you can't have multiple stages of battle with different forms of the boss. Is that okay? I really hope I'm not restricting you too much.

@Blizzard's rather strange question: (o____O lol I hope it's the drink) Yeah I guess so but I don't see why you would. D:

And yeah what Kirby said.

*adds G_G and Ulta to judges*

[Calintz]

You know ...
Without a time limit, how can their be a winner??

[Reno-s--Joker]

Time Limit:
Until the end of my (currently failing) hiatus!
i.e. Wednesday, 4th November
I will be lenient on the day because I can't be bothered converting timezones.

It's ages but it's still finite, I swear!

[Calintz]

Damn ...
I may enter this in time then.

Once I get my battle-system up and running at optimum performance; I can see creating a couple unique battlers and animations for this competition.

[Reno-s--Joker]

Yay! Just post your name using the code when you're 100% in.
I look forward to it!

[Calintz]

Alright ...
This is cool. This may be the best competition that's been held thus far.

Not only will it demonstrate the overall RMXP ability to create boss battles of the member's who participate, but will help those who are less fortunate. I say the winner of this competition's project should be stickied in the "Tutorials" Section.

[Aqua]

Whee.  I have an idea then.
Thanks Reno

And I didn't plan on having staged bosses either...

Hope no one minds that the enemies' battlers won't really match my *cough hand drawn cough* hero ones...

[Blizzard]

@Blizzard's rather strange question: (o____O lol I hope it's the drink) Yeah I guess so but I don't see why you would. D:

It wasn't the drink, but I had already started typing and I didn't want to post something stupid so I made up a relevant question. ._.

[Reno-s--Joker]

@Calintz: That would probably be a better prize (>_<) ... that is, if they have a Tutorial in the section. I'd also need the help of a mod/admin (no idea what their privileges are/aren't) to do that... *looks around*

@Aqua: No problem. Personally I like it when heroes look different from enemies. And it'd be really awesome if you did your own graphics!

@Blizzard: Lol! Good... yeah I do that a lot. >_>

[Aqua]

*formally signs-up*

#2: Aqua

[Valcos]

Well... I cant have Aqua or Kirby win. So, my only choice is to sign up =/.


#01: Valcos

[Sally]

ill sign up and try it...

is it alright if i do it in VX? you don't have a engine in the first topic...

and a question...
can you have a normal monster battle before or after the boss?

[Reno-s--Joker]

@Aqua and Valcos: Awesome, thanks guys!

@Sal: You're right! My bad... >_> It would be highly preferable if you did it in XP, if possible. If you can't then I guess we might be able to make an exception...
And in response to your other question - not unless they are a weak form of the boss or something. I sure hope that rule didn't ruin a good idea you had... >_<

[Sally]

@Sal: You're right! My bad... >_> It would be highly preferable if you did it in XP, if possible. If you can't then I guess we might be able to make an exception...

well my rmxp stoped working... whenever i try to run it,

error: ShowHide

I sure hope that rule didn't ruin a good idea you had... >_<

oh, it did.

[fugibo]

Val, an octal 1 is still a 1.

[Seox]

Reno, I'd like to judge, if that's ok.

^_^

PWEEEEEEESE?

Really, *end obnoxious*, please? I'd like to be able to see what everyone else tries in the ways of creative bosses. 'Tis a learning experience!

[Valcos]

Argh... no abs  . There goes my idea -_-"....

[Sally]

can we have 4mobs in the battle at once? there all a part of the boss?

[Starrodkirby86]

can we have 4mobs in the battle at once? there all a part of the boss?

- Have more than one boss* (although it can take several forms)
* If you choose to do this, you cannot have several forms.

So in other words, you can have multiple enemies, but in expense you cannot have your boss taking more than one form. (Like regular form then go into crazy final boss form)

[Valcos]

That doesnt make sense... she says it can take several forms, then says you cant!!!! 

Maybe, Im just reading it wrong... but, can someone explain it to me.

[Starrodkirby86]

You can have several forms of a boss.

HOWEVER, if you have multiple enemies in the battle, you CANNOT have several forms of a boss.

Example:
If my boss is just some ultra gigantic robot, then I can have it take onto different forms.

But if my boss are two twins, I cannot have them change forms because there's more than one enemy.

[Sally]

can i have a easy form of the boss and a hard form of the boss? (player gets to "pick")

[Valcos]

What if you have twins.... but they fuse together?

[Seox]

What if you have twins.... but they fuse together?

I don't know what Kirby and Reno think, but, obviously, if it's that they fuse INSTANTLY, of course that should be OK. If you damage them first.....I don't know.

Sorry. Just trying to offer my $35.50

[Sally]

oo nice nice...

im keeping my ideas secret.

almost done with the events before the battle, the actual battle is gonna be hard, because im not good at making awesome battles...

[Starrodkirby86]

I'm really wondering why people are at such a high progress level in their boss battle when the due date is about 5 months away from now.

That being said, I'm not going to procrastinate, but I'm working a semi-gung ho pace that's somewhat slow overall.

[Seox]

I'm really wondering why people are at such a high progress level in their boss battle when the due date is about 5 months away from now.

That being said, I'm not going to procrastinate, but I'm working a semi-gung ho pace that's somewhat slow overall.

Meh. If I were entered, I wouldn't be able to wait on starting, either. And usually, if you make something (in ANYTHING that you do,) then leave it for any significant period of time and return, you'll almost get the feel of what a player would, because you've nearly forgotten it. Point being, letting it "marinate" will allow you to better edit it, IMHO.

PS: AHHHHHH!!!! Kirby's AV changed!!!!

[Sally]

well... i started it this morning, and im almost done, now i just gotta put events into my Battle to make it interesting...

then im done,

Wait! the due date is 5months from now!! WTF RENO! >.<

[King Munkey]

It is for her return.

Time Limit:
Until the end of my (currently failing) hiatus!
i.e. Wednesday, 4th November
I will be lenient on the day because I can't be bothered converting timezones.

I may or may not do it. I'll have to think of something before I decide.

[Sally]

your end of your hiatus, is in a week.

[Valcos]

Well... i guess you can make a 20 hour boss battle in 5 months 

[Sally]

i can make a 50hour boss battle in 5months
>.<

[Valcos]

Lol... well, im probably not going to get to crazy with it just yet.

[Seox]

i can make a 50hour boss battle in 5months
>.<

Hell, why not just make a boss battle in which it NEVER ENDS?!?!?!

MUAHAHAHAH

Seriously though, if you guys go BLAZING into it this early, you'll get burned out. Pace yourselves - I think that your results will be exponentially greater. I hope that I get to judge, as I'd really like to see some unique battles.

^_^ Good luck.

[Starrodkirby86]

Why not tell Reno you want to sign up then?

I will accept three judges. Judges must have good enough internet to DL entries, enough time to play through them, a lack of bias, etc, etc. We will contact each other via PM on this forum or MSN if you want (but I'd rather not). I am a semi-judge (since my internet is so damn temperamental >_>)

Current Judges:
#1: game_guy
#2: UltaFlame
#3:

There's one spot open for you~

[Seox]

Reno, I'd like to judge, if that's ok.

^_^

PWEEEEEEESE?

Really, *end obnoxious*, please? I'd like to be able to see what everyone else tries in the ways of creative bosses. 'Tis a learning experience!

Meh. I posted this; it's about halfway through this topic, but I should prolly PM her.

^_^

[Reno-s--Joker]

Wow, a lot happened. Glad Seox awoke me from the dead... ^_^''

@Sal:
That's okay - I'll just have to ask the other judges to get VX so they can judge yours I guess. *pokes them*
And a hard and easy boss would count as a different form... nice idea about selecting the difficulty, btw...

@Seox:
Replied to PM and updated! Good to have you on the 'team' lol...

@Kirby:
You're a legend... thanks for helping explain things. <333
<offtopic> I find it coincidence that I bought a bag today with "Vocaloid No. 2: Hatsune Miku" on it (not knowing wtf it was it just looked cool and asian) ... and then I looked at your sig. </offtopic>

@Valcos:
Oh noes! D: I hope you find a better idea... or otherwise you'll have to wait a million years for me to run an ABS competition I guess... >_>
Well... you could always 'tell' us that they are technically one boss.

@Munkey:
I hope you enter!!!!!

And about the long time period, I was mainly thinking you could use it for bug testing and perhaps enhancing your graphics and scripts to the maximum. I have pretty high expectations. Oh and for latecomers too. xD
But I agree it's hard not to start on something right away. D:

[Blizzard]

Eh, I skimmed through the topic a bit. What about transforming enemies? I mean DURING the battle. I've read the posts that a boss must not have many forms in consecutive battles.

[Sally]

aww damn reno your killing so many of my great ideas...  i gotta start all over now, beouse my cutscenes are more interesting than my battle now... >.<

And a hard and easy boss would count as a different form

but you will only be fighting one of them... not all 3...

[Valcos]

Cant I still use abs... but the character only fights the boss? Like there is no other enemys

[Starrodkirby86]

Eh, I skimmed through the topic a bit. What about transforming enemies? I mean DURING the battle. I've read the posts that a boss must not have many forms in consecutive battles.

Er...wouldn't that count as a boss taking on another form? Some famous RPGs do this, not like I know any. Ha. Ha. Ha.

Cant I still use abs... but the character only fights the boss? Like there is no other enemys

Sure. If you have no other enemies in that battle, then the boss is allowed to take multiple forms. If you have multiple enemies in that battle, then the boss can't take another form.

I'm now getting a little confused over this whole thing, so I'll just represent whatever and ask out a few questions to Reno:

1) Do summons count as multiple enemies or not? In other words, if my boss uses a summon, can it still take another form?
2) What if your boss can split into different parts? Would that count as multiple enemies? For example, I take enough HP away from some bacteria boss, and then it splits in two. Would those two enemies count as multiple (It already went into a different form, mind you). Same thing vice versa, (Two things merge to make one)
3) So how do forms work? I always treated them as 'connected', but now you've just said to Sally that a hard version or an easy version of a boss counts as two different forms.

[Valcos]

Maybe we should just revise the rules? Just so there is no more confusion. 

[Seox]

Maybe we should just revise the rules? Just so there is no more confusion. 

Probably a good idea.


Thanks, Reno!

Hopefully I'm not Judge Ghis. Because Ghis is a gay name. And although the airship is cool, he has gay hair. W00T FFXII!

So, my first action as a judge will be to distribute ham sandwiches cocaine.... aww, forget it.

Good luck, everyone, and I'm glad to be on the team!

[Subsonic_Noise]

I'll perhaps also sign up, I have a lot of things planned.

I will probably fail. Whatever.

[Seox]

I'll perhaps also sign up, I have a lot of things planned.

I will probably fail. Whatever.

Meh. IMHO, there's nothing to lose, and we can all learn from it, and have fun. That's one of the main reasons that I'm judging : I want to see some unique boss fights. It's been a while since an RPG's challenged me.

So no worries ^_^. We'd be glad to have you aboard.

You just have to end every sentence with "ARRGH!", like a pirate, since you're climbing aboard.

Oh yeah.
"ARRRGH!"



Really though, don't worry about winning or losing. All you'll get are bragging rights. 

[fugibo]

Maybe we should just revise the rules? Just so there is no more confusion. 

Probably a good idea.


Thanks, Reno!

Hopefully I'm not Judge Ghis. Because Ghis is a gay name. And although the airship is cool, he has gay hair. W00T FFXII!

So, my first action as a judge will be to distribute ham sandwiches cocaine.... aww, forget it.

Good luck, everyone, and I'm glad to be on the team!

My favorite is Gabranth.

[Calintz]

That was just an awesome game, and the judges were an amazing addition.

[Seox]

XD, I still haven't beaten it. My save corrupted at giruvegan.

Was gabranth the "main" judge, or the one at the temple with the mega-super-special-awesome-two-hander-of-doom. which he one-handed?

My favorite judge is/was the "main" one...didn't he have VERY SHORT red hair?

Meh.


Ghis are fagmuffin.

[Calintz]

Ah, the end movie is killer!! You HAVE to finish it.

[Valcos]

mega-super-special-awesome-two-hander-of-doom. which he one-handed?

Thats not the first time i heard that...

[Seox]

mega-super-special-awesome-two-hander-of-doom. which he one-handed?

Thats not the first time i heard that...

That took me a while.

Actually, Niiiiiiiice.



@Cal -
I want to, but it does suck having to go ALLLLLLL the way back to where I was. Meh. Still, FFXII is AWESOME.

And, for some random reason, I can picture Basch's mom having a brooklyn accent. And yelling at him to clean his room.

Mom: BWASHHHH! CLEAN YA RUHM!!!

Basch: Mo- Mom! Not right now! I have to- I have to-

Mom: No Bwash, clean ya ruhm, niow!!!

Basch: I- I've gotta kill the cactuar!

Mom: No Bwas-


*30 mins later*

*Basch slumps off, head down*

Party is like, WTF???

Basch: Sorry guys. Gotta clean my room.


Yeah.

No, I've never done drugs.

[Blizzard]

Er...wouldn't that count as a boss taking on another form?

Hence why I am asking. Technically it's not the same thing.

Some famous RPGs do this, not like I know any. Ha. Ha. Ha.

No, no RPG has ever done this before. It's a totally original idea.

[Reno-s--Joker]

ARGH STOP WAKING ME FROM THE DEADDDDD

Please read carefully.

I know it's a lot but I'm trying to prevent confusion here...

I'll be honest: I just put that rule to prevent boss battles which were like... say the Four Fiends in that FF... whose title I have currently forgotten. >_> I hope you'll all understand that it's unfair if, say, one competitor does a six-eyed blob while the other does a series of six battles against six of the most powerful elemental lords in the land. Each has an equal number of enemies, but each enemy is of a different degree. Now this 'degree' is really hard to explain, so I'm going to need your help by you using some common sense.

I didn't mean for this to be this complex. If you really think you're pushing the rules with your final idea (I say final, not just speculation), please PM me about it. I won't spill your idea to anyone else.

@Asshole: Transforming enemies are fine and I'd count them as forms. I felt that they were a common thing so I neglected to mention. My bad. D: Ill put up a list of things included as forms when I get around to it... eventually......
@Sal: It should be fine if you only get to fight one. This also answers Kirby's third question (hopefully) that if you don't get to fight both, they are not different forms and that sort of a system would probably count more as making three parallel games in essence. o_O
@Val: I'd feel bad if I made an exception for you because I made Aqua ditch her ABS idea. I am seriously thinking about running an ABS one later though.
@Kirby:
1) I told Aqua that no, they don't. So yeah having a million summons should be fine. Unless they're the sort that have HP and you have to kill them (which is essentially another boss). Something like that would count as being another boss/enemy in battle (see second-last paragraph).
2) I think that's a great idea and should be fine... in this case it would be ridiculous to ask you to count the total bacteria and penalise you for having 'too many forms' (that's not a rule btw... it'll just affect judging if we felt that you had too many). UNLESS however the boss ends up splitting into eight superhard things (in which case that would feel like too many). O_O
3) See my reply to Sal, and also:
Generally forms include mid (e.g. alternating between two beings or transforming to a second being after a period of time, etc.) and after-battle (e.g. argh, but you haven't seen the REAL me yet [repeat this 1000 times until he finally shows his REAL form and he dies a REAL death]) transformations.

If you really want to boil this all down, I wanted there just to be one boss (Sephiroth and his million masamunes, whetever you want), rather than a series of awesome battles between the greatest in the land (that would often appear in sidequests of most games except for Pokemon of which it is actually the final boss). EVEN IF YOU JUST GIVE THEM THE SAME NAME (well, not really... I'll get the judges to look at the graphics and character design and see if you're cheating around this rule if they don't align o_O). Whatever it takes to make that one boss character work... fine with me (again, just ask if you're unsure - and plus I feel special when you send me PMs).

Minions/companions/guards/friends/wives are fine - when I said yes to Aqua's question about whether more than one enemy was allowed per battle, I think this is what I meant. Now that I read back I don't really understand myself there to be honest, but I am quite sure that I meant if this was to happen, one shouldn't be allowed to have multiple battles (just the one with the many enemies).

Sorry if I missed anyone, I think I'm losing my memory...

If you can surpass these restrictions (there is, in essence, only one in all the crap I just typed: that you can't have an unfair amount of bosses) and still make a killer battler, then you are the one worthy of winning. Seriously.

[Blizzard]

It's me, Blizzy. ._. Don't call me Asshole. ;_;

[Sally]

ill cann you F0D

@Sal: It should be fine if you only get to fight one.  This also answers Kirby's third question (hopefully) that if you don't get to fight both, they are not different forms and that sort of a system would probably count more as making three parallel games in essence. o_O

you save lives with that statement...

[Starrodkirby86]

Minions/companions/guards/friends/wives are fine - when I said yes to Aqua's question about whether more than one enemy was allowed per battle, I think this is what I meant. Now that I read back I don't really understand myself there to be honest, but I am quite sure that I meant if this was to happen, one shouldn't be allowed to have multiple battles (just the one with the many enemies).

Hm...I guess you don't like heterosexual females eh? Or homosexual males. :S I mean, you totally excluded husbands from there!

Now my latest issue is not passing the 5 minute time limit, but the 5 MB capacity. .__.

EDIT: Not like it matters, but stickied thread.

[Seox]

I'll try to help clear up any issues for you, Reno.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but, all of those rules pretty much say one thing to me:

You don't want the battles to be an act of god, impossible save for only the strongest of strong, the most cunning of cunning (the teletubbies!), the cheesiest of cheese!

But, obviously, you don't want them to be SUPER EASY though, either. It seems to me like those rules could function more as suggestions, and you could just free up EVERYTHING, save for a few, like ABSes. That way, SURE, make the battle IMPOSSIBLE. But it'll never win, because noone can beat it and it's frustrating (COUGH COUGH Evrae COUGH COUGH). Would you agree? Just trying to clear up any ambiguity.

[Aqua]

Yes... the 5 MB limitation is really hard...

Especially since animation sheets take up more than 1 MB each @.@
(The ones that are made in a specific order; not the RTP ones XD)

[Valcos]

Whats an animation sheet? 

[Starrodkirby86]

Whats an animation sheet? 

http://forum.chaos-project.com/index.php?topic=1706.0

[Valcos]

Oh.

Anyone know how to use "cutscene" sprites? Like make a cutscene sprite(or sheet? o.O) and use it in game?

[Starrodkirby86]

Just use a different character set or something...or do lots of eventing. Heck, Show Picture, the works.

Many cutscenes are done by events, so it's basically just going through all the eventing and making something nice out of it.

[Valcos]

Yeah, I think I have an idea how to do it. Its gonna be plenty of work though.

[fugibo]

I think they should get extra credit for popular references and amazing humor.

In other words, fail Sally now j/k

[Sally]

I think they should get extra credit for popular references and amazing humor.

In other words, fail Sally now j/k

asshole.

[Seox]

I think they should get extra credit for popular references and amazing humor.

In other words, fail Sally now j/k

asshole.

I thought Blizz changed his name back already? Oh well.


XD

[GAX]

November...I'M  IN!

Now, should I be serious or shall the lulz commence?

[Calintz]

Please be serious ...

For me, I am hoping to gain some knowledge about constructing some good boss battles from this competition, so I have high hopes for the contestants.

And like I said, once I finish my configuring Minkoff's, and create some custom battlers ... I may enter as well.

[Seox]

Please be serious ...

For me, I am hoping to gain some knowledge about constructing some good boss battles from this competition, so I have high hopes for the contestants.

And like I said, once I finish my configuring Minkoff's, and create some custom battlers ... I may enter as well.

As am I. That's my primary reason for judging - I want to learn what plays well, without the bias of having created it myself.

Hurray, similarity. XD.

[Valcos]

I think im just going to make a kick ass 5 min cutscene, then throw a little fight in there.

[Sally]

thats pretty much wut i did except mine is not a little fight... its an awesome fight.

[Starrodkirby86]

Progress of Aqua, Valcos, and Sally: Far
Progress of me: Not so much

~</3

My cut scene is going to be full of Cheez Whiz. It's going to be quite delicious. Like, my story's about these two fat people that want this piece of Cheez Whiz so badly (Because they're obsessed with that brand, hence their weight). The other fat guy turns into a giant demon, which leaves the first fat guy to beat him up in a one and one light-saber battle~ I think my thing will win for sure.

(Hint hint: I'm actually not doing this scenario)

I still propose that the filesize should be increased to something over 5 MB, perhaps 10. It's still a reasonable size...Custom resources are going to take a lot of space...For example, Animation sheets are 1 MB (As Aqua mentions), music files should be 1-3 MB total or something, any fancy pictures can equal up to 1-3 MB, and the additional packaging will require a bit around 500 KB or so.

I hope people support my opinion. If not, I might as well find another way to compress and do workarounds. :3

[Valcos]

Um, I support you!!

And... if it makes you feel any better, I have got no work done for this competition. BUT! I have got work dont for Nams!!

[Sally]

ahh,, yeah... i agree, 5mb is short. 10mb sounds nice.

[Aqua]

I agree! XD
I'm at 5.30 MB - animations took up that room... and I want more... xD

[Reno-s--Joker]

Yeah, I realised that some PNGs don't even compress when you zip them. WTF. >:U

10MB it is! Although I feel like making it 12MB for some reason... o_O

[Starrodkirby86]

I love you, big sister.

If you want it 12 MB, feel free. I don't feel shackled in chains anymore~

[Aqua]

Thanks Reno!

*must resist filling the rest of my available space with animations...*

[Reno-s--Joker]

Awesome! I'm going back into hibernation. Just send me a PM if you need me to change any more rules you horrible-exploiters-of-how-much-I-love-you.



Yeah just to be safe I think I will make it 12MB.

*must resist filling the rest of my available space with animations...*

D: Lol yeah, so true...

[Blizzard]

PNG is actually already compressed.

[Aqua]

Here's a tool for anyone in this.
It allows you to take the current in game time whenever you want, and appends each take into an external file.
You can easily check how long your cutscene(s) before/after the battle by taking the time at

• the beginning of the game (which should be 0... XD)


• the start of the battle


• the end of the battle


• as the game ends

Then manually do the math.
(4th - 1st) - (3rd - 2nd) = Time of cutscenes
3rd - 2nd = Time of battle

Spoiler: ShowHide

module Aqua
  
  # Saves current play time in external file
  # Can be used to see how long the game is outside the battle
  # Use Aqua.take_time at the moment in which you wish to...take the time :P
  def self.take_time
    
    @total_sec = Graphics.frame_count / Graphics.frame_rate
    hour = @total_sec / 60 / 60
    min = @total_sec / 60 % 60
    sec = @total_sec % 60
    text = sprintf("%02d:%02d:%02d ", hour, min, sec)
    
    File.open('game_time.txt', "a") { |f|
      Marshal.dump(text, f)
    }

  end
end

[Calintz]

Very nice.

[Sally]

thanks aqua.

[shdwlink1993]

#05: shdwlink1993

Considering that the deadline is only six months away, I might as well sign up now.

One question about the scoring guide: Would including a chiche for the purpose of lampshading it still count as a deduction?

[Starrodkirby86]

shdw, I went on urbandictionary and they had a way different definition of that...*shudder*

Well, first of all, having a chiche wouldn't hinder your game at all. And I'm sure if you're parodying cliches, like most humorous RPGs do (Or satires), then they'll go through it.

...I bet Reno is out of hibernation...

And shdw come back :< I'm lonely

[shdwlink1993]

Well, first of all, having a chiche wouldn't hinder your game at all. And I'm sure if you're parodying cliches, like most humorous RPGs do (Or satires), then they'll go through it.

Deductions:
   Cliches

I suspect that satirizing them wouldn't be a deduction, but I'm paranoid about it, so there's my reasoning. XD

shdw, I went on urbandictionary and they had a way different definition of that...*shudder*

Try this instead. Explains it much better than I could (The way I meant it to be taken, at least. XD

[Reno-s--Joker]

Hi shdw! Glad you could join and I hope I'm not too late in saying that yes, anti-cliché isn't cliché unless you use really cliché anti-cliché-ing methods. But yeah I can't think of many of those at the moment really (let alone think about anything else much)...

@Aqua: You are awesome. I totally didn't think of that. o.o;;

[Sally]

November is coming in about 3 more months, i hope everyone is still working on these Boss Battles, i know i slacked off a bit. but im still working for about 1-2hours a week.   Goodluck.

Edit: O sht, i still gotta  get in the tons of skills i have planed... oh no. and the boss is wayy to easy...
looks like i still have a few more days of work.

[RoseSkye]

I'm in.. I'll have this pushover thing done in a very delayed heartbeat.. like a day or so.

Edit: Wow.. actually I'll drop out. I'm a bit too busy at the moment to do this.

[Diokatsu]

Don't do it Roseskye you were the best one

[Blizzard]

*slaps Rose* >8U

._.

[RoseSkye]

You guys are just saying that because its true. =(

That or the whole roofie I slipped in your drink to anally rape you.. multiple times...

[Sally]

Don't drop out, i need competition...

[Valcos]

... im not considered competition? 

[RoseSkye]

They're just taking a piss, Valcos. =/

I'm still awesome though. *Looks at self in mirror*

[shdwlink1993]

Well, I thought I might remind everyone that the contest ends TOMORROW. Also, I'm going to have to drop out, what with all the computer shenanigans that have been shenanigating around here as of late. Sorry for the inconvenience of not giving the three judges (one of which was banned, so nobody's sure as to if they'll be judging or not) more work to do for this awesome-sauce contest.

[Reno-s--Joker]

So SRK told me about this situation and I understand you guys lol.
I for one will gladly spend my time doing some very overdue beta testing. D:

... yeah so I'll let this sit for another day and see what happens. ^_^' A moderator could/should take this off the sticky place if they'd wish.