Item Drop (Blizz-ABS+RMX-OS)

[Dweller]

Hi all,

I have a problem with item drop on my server. Mobs drops the item but directly to players inventory (no item on the field). ABS options --> ITEM_DROP = true. May I need to change other config so the item drop to the field?

(using: UMS, Law Custom eqiipment Screen, RMX-OS, Blizz-ABS, XP Bar-ABS, Visual Equipment ABS, ABS Controller for RMX-OS last version scripts)

ABS Configuration: ShowHide

CUSTOM_CONTROLS = false
    DISABLE_DEFAULT = false
    UP = "Key['W']"
    LEFT = "Key['A']"
    DOWN = "Key['S']"
    RIGHT = "Key['D']"
    PREVPAGE = "Key['Q']"
    NEXTPAGE = "Key['E']"
    CONFIRM = "Key['H']"
    CANCEL = "Key['F']"
    ATTACK = "Key['K']"
    DEFEND = "Key['L']"
    SKILL = "Key['J']"
    ITEM = "Key['I']"
    SELECT = "Key['O']"
    HUD = "Key['Z']"
    HOTKEY = "Key['X']"
    MINIMAP = "Key['C']"
    RUN = "Key['M']"
    SNEAK = "Key['.']"
    JUMP = "Key[',']"
    TURN = "Key['U']"
    
  end
  
  #:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=
  # BlizzABS::Config
  #----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  #  This module provides Blizz-ABS configurations.
  #:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=:=
  
  module Config
    
    # 2.1. # Basic Configuration
    MAX_PARTY = 4
    MAX_PETS = 1
    MAX_MONSTERS = 1
    MAX_SUMMONS = 1
    CATERPILLAR = false
    CORPSES = false
    EMPTY_CORPSES = false
    RECOVER_ON_LEVEL_UP = true
    FULL_DEFEND = true
    DIRECT_HOTKEYS = false
    AUTO_GAMEOVER = false
    DROP_AMMO = true
    MENU_COLOR_TINT = 0
    DISABLE_ABS_MODE = 0
    ITEM_DROP = true
    ITEM_PICKUP_SOUND_FILE = RPG::AudioFile.new('056-Right02', 80, 100)
    GOLD_DROP = ''
    GOLD_PICKUP_SOUND_FILE = RPG::AudioFile.new('', 80, 100)
    DROP_TIME = 29
    EVENT_LOCK = 40
    ANIMATED_IDS = []
    
    # 2.2. # Movement Configuration
    PIXEL_MOVEMENT_RATE = 0
    REPAIR_MOVEMENT = true
    EIGHT_WAY_MOVEMENT = false
    SNEAK_ON_CHARGE = false
    NORMAL_SPEED = 4
    RUN_SPEED = 5
    SNEAK_SPEED = 3
    JUMPING = 2
    NO_JUMP_TAGS = []
    ALLOW_JUMP_TAGS = []
    NO_FLOOR_TAGS = []
    
    # 2.3. # Lag Prevention Configuration
    INTELLIGENT_PASSABILITY = false
    ABSEAL_AUTOKILL = true
    ABSEAL_FACTOR = 4
    DISABLE_ANTILAG_IDS = []
    
    # 2.4. # Game Info Configuration
    HUD_ENABLED = true
    HUD_POSITION = 0
    HUD_TYPE = 0
    MINIMAP = true
    HOTKEYS = true
    ENEMY_HEALTH_BARS = 0
    ENEMY_HEALTH_BARS_MATCH_WIDTH = false
    BOUNCING_DAMAGE = false
    WEAPON_DATA_MODE = [2, 0]
    SKILL_DATA_MODE = [0, 0, 0]
    ITEM_DATA_MODE = [2, 0, 0]
    
    # 2.5. # Enemy Behavior Configuration
    AI_DEFAULT_ATTRIBUTES = '00000000'
    AI_DELAY_TIME = 40
    VIEW_RANGE = 5
    HEARING_RANGE_RATIO = 40
    RESPAWN_TIME = 8
    WALL_TAGS = []
    NO_ENEMY_TAGS = []
    
    # 2.6. # Animation Configuration
    ANIMATIONS = true
    SMALL_ANIMATIONS = true
    DISPLAY_LEVEL_UP = true
    LEVEL_UP_ANIMATION_ID = 2
    FLEE_ANIMATION_ID = 0
    CALL_HELP_ANIMATION_ID = 0
    DEFEND_ANIMATION_ID = 0
    UNSUMMON_ANIMATION_ID = 0
    
    # 2.7. # Sprite Control Configuration
    A_ACTION_SPRITES = true
    A_WEAPON_SPRITES = true
    A_DEFEND_SPRITES = false
    A_SKILL_SPRITES = false
    A_ITEM_SPRITES = true
    A_IDLE_SPRITES = false
    A_CHARGE_SPRITES = false
    A_CHARGE_WEAPON_SPRITES = false
    A_CHARGE_SKILL_SPRITES = false
    A_CHARGE_ITEM_SPRITES = false
    E_ACTION_SPRITES = false
    E_SKILL_SPRITES = false
    E_IDLE_SPRITES = false
    E_CHARGE_SPRITES = false
    E_CHARGE_SKILL_SPRITES = false
    RUNNING_SPRITES = false
    SNEAKING_SPRITES = false
    JUMPING_SPRITES = false

Please use [code][/code] tags when posting code ~ G_G

[Blizzard]

# What is different:
#   
#   - Map actor data will not be stored completely. Special states and effects
#     that are related to Blizz-ABS (i.e. the data regarding the charging
#     state) are not being saved.
#   - RMX-OS was not intended to have Blizz-ABS allies! Players will not see
#     other players' allies on the map if you add them and you are risking data
#     corruption during saving! The same goes for summons!
#   - Alignment groups are available, but dynamic change of alignment groups
#     is mostly disabled for convenience.
#   - Target selection is disabled. Every skill that has target selection will
#     be executed immediately. If a selection skill targets only one target, a
#     random target from all available targets will be chosen. Generally you
#     should avoid single-target selection skills and items.
#   - ABSEAL is disabled.
#   - Processing takes place only on the Global Master client that is assigned
#     dynamically by the server.
#   - Killed enemy events that are set on Death trigger are run only on the
#     Global Master client. It is recommended that killed enemies trigger
#     global switches that run common events. For that you need a plugin for
#     RMX-OS that allows you to have global switches.
#   - Item / Gold Drops are disabled. The actor who killed the enemy will get
#     the item reward. EXP and gold rewards are shared among party members
#     where each party member adds a specific amount to the gained EXP.
#     Remember that items can be traded so a shared item reward is unnecessary.

[Dweller]

ty for the info

[Dweller]

How can I add info about looting to the chat window? (if is posible)
Like: "Character X loot Y item".

[Wizered67]

That was my idea!!!!! (I just didn't ask....)

[Event Master]

Just so you know, you CAN change it so that items drop to the field in RMX-OS  (sorry Blizz!)

In the RMX-OS script for ABS, look around line 184, Blizzard has it so that the setup here overrides the setup in your Blizz-ABS config.
Just adjust those settings to change what you want.

I tested RMX-OS WITH item drop, and it works fine, only that the person who defeated the enemy will be the only person able to see and pick up the dropped items.

I haven't tested Corpses.

ABSEAL also works with no problem, but it might not on yours. If you have the problem with large sprites leaving sections on the map, it probably won't work.

[stripe103]

Sure, it maybe works, but there is probably a reason that he wants them disabled.

[Blizzard]

When one item is dropped, it is dropped on every map and literally every player can take his own version of the item. I hope that's what you want to happen in your game.

[SBR*]

When one item is dropped, it is dropped on every map and literally every player can take his own version of the item. I hope that's what you want to happen in your game.

But he said that only the player who killed the monster could see and loot the item?

[Event Master]

These REALLY should be disabled, but in some way, you could make it so that when the enemy is defeated, it triggers the same thing that it does upon death that allows ALL players to see that it died, then the server sends the drop to every body. Get it? You can probably do the same with corpses if you wanted.

Items show up in every map? That didn't happen to me. Only the person who beat it could see it, and only that person could get it. I WAS having problems where random players would appear on different maps then they were really on, but it fixed itself (ABSEAL probably)

I can't script that, and I don't think that ABSEAL should be turned on (unless you really need it) and it's really best left that the item drop and stuff is also turned off, unless somewhow this is implimented.

And SBR, Blizz made the script, not me. I just picked it apart (thanks for the RMX-OS autotargeting I'm using without RMX-OS!) and studied the different sections. If Blizz (or Winkio for some) says something will probably happen, you should probably take it over what I or anybody else says.

[Blizzard]

If one player has an event on the map that no other player can see, there are 3 problems. One is the inconsistency in the game. The game is not equal to everybody. Secondly, if that one player is the only who can pick the item up, why even bother putting it there? The last one is that the existence of an event in one player's game can crash somebody else's because the game is trying to do something with non-existing data (like showing a sprite).

And besides, you're forgetting one main problem. Not the player who killed the monster will have the item appear but the player who processed the kill will have the item appear and those two can be different players. Let player A enter a map and then let player B enter the map. Let player B kill the monster and see where the item appears. Don't turn off the window of player A. If the window of player A is deactivated, chances are that the server will reassign the role of the processor client to player B.

[element]

I also like to have something like a loot bag that is dropped(with somethimes multiple items and gold in it.)
It could be handy cuz in my game u have a max bag capacity and u could choose wich item u take and wich one u don't.
Or is there something that does that already?

[Event Master]

Well, if we have enemies drop items, it will make players more frantic and think twice about WHERE they defeat the enemies.
The game would be unequal to everybody, but it already is the other way too.
Yes, it could possibly crash the other people's game, but I see no reason as to why (I had another player step directly on the loot of another person but it didn't do anything, but having the sprite dissapear over some time could cause this, but since this hasn't been added to RMX-OS, it won't process it globally, right? Blizz-ABS is Blizz-ABS, even with the server. All's that RMX-OS does is show other charecters playing, allows you to text with other players, and have it so that enemies are DELETED (in your script, it doesn't call so that the enemies are counted as Killed, it just deletes them) like would happen if one enemy defeated another (I also tried that).) Other people processing other people's kills is possible, but RMX-OS is more like a pass-along for Blizz-ABS. BABS processes everything, then RMX-OS takes it, shines it up, then sends it to others. Don't get me wrong, I think that your RMX-OS is GENIOUS, but hey, people can risk it and try if they want.

Yes, there are a lot of ways for things to go wrong, but they probably won't (I think)

Blizz, I don't want my stuff crashing and buggy, I'm just saying what's possible. (I'm not doing any of this stuff!). And I highly DON'T suggest that anybody does any of this. You made RMX-OS how it was for a reason, and unless (for some odd reason) somebody wants this, an extension could be made (why would you need this?) but I think that would be more work than it's worth.

element, use Tons of Add On's Multi-drop, the make or find a gold fluxuation script.
If you want to have it so that you can choose what items to take, just make it so that players can somehow delete items in their bag. There's probably a script for this somewhere (or you can request it. It can't be that difficult to make.)

I know you probably hate me by now

[Blizzard]

You don't mind your game being buggy and prone to crashes? Wow, just wow. You're not going to make it far with that attitude. Please, just stop posting. Just stop.

[SBR*]

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These REALLY should be disabled, but in some way, you could make it so that when the enemy is defeated, it triggers the same thing that it does upon death that allows ALL players to see that it died, then the server sends the drop to every body. Get it? You can probably do the same with corpses if you wanted.

Items show up in every map? That didn't happen to me. Only the person who beat it could see it, and only that person could get it. I WAS having problems where random players would appear on different maps then they were really on, but it fixed itself (ABSEAL probably)

I can't script that, and I don't think that ABSEAL should be turned on (unless you really need it) and it's really best left that the item drop and stuff is also turned off, unless somewhow this is implimented.

And SBR, Blizz made the script, not me. I just picked it apart (thanks for the RMX-OS autotargeting I'm using without RMX-OS!) and studied the different sections. If Blizz (or Winkio for some) says something will probably happen, you should probably take it over what I or anybody else says.

IK, but am I not allowed to ask for an explanation? O.o

Spoiler: ShowHide

If one player has an event on the map that no other player can see, there are 3 problems. One is the inconsistency in the game. The game is not equal to everybody. Secondly, if that one player is the only who can pick the item up, why even bother putting it there? The last one is that the existence of an event in one player's game can crash somebody else's because the game is trying to do something with non-existing data (like showing a sprite).

And besides, you're forgetting one main problem. Not the player who killed the monster will have the item appear but the player who processed the kill will have the item appear and those two can be different players. Let player A enter a map and then let player B enter the map. Let player B kill the monster and see where the item appears. Don't turn off the window of player A. If the window of player A is deactivated, chances are that the server will reassign the role of the processor client to player B.

I'm wondering: why is the dropping of the item processed by the processor client and the adding of an item to your inventory not? If the kill is processed by the processing client, what 's the difference between those two actions? And EM, I believe Blizz, I'd just like to know why this is that way...

[Blizzard]

Let me explain. I took a look at my code to remember what I implemented and how it works exactly.

When an enemy dies, that is processed on the client that has the processor role assigned by the server (I call it G-Master as in global master processor client). The fact that the enemy died is sent over the network including the ID of the user who killed it. Each player on the map gets that message. Everybody will actually process the death of the enemy in the method BlizzABS::Processor::remove_enemy. But exp, gold and items are dropped only for the guy who killed it (where gold and exp are given to all players in the party as well if the player is a member of a party). So I made a mistake (hah, means I actually thought of that problem in advance and already solved it beforehand) and killing an enemy would cause it to drop stuff only on the player's map who actually killed the enemy. Still, game inconsistency sucks and makes the game look less real since data isn't shared among everybody. That means the only two problems that remain are inconsistency and the actual unnecessity to put the item on the floor since nobody can steal your loot anyway.