PKMN : Heart Gold + Soul Silver

Started by Starrodkirby86, May 08, 2009, 08:12:26 pm

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I sure hope you know about this information. Pokemon Gold and Silver have been personal favorites by many of the Pokemon fans, and now they're finally officially remaking it.

Expect it in Fall of 2009. There's little information, but I'm sure it's legitimate. All the Pokemon sites that are real have it.

Discuss.

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Vell

just hope it's not ruined. today's video game world, I don't dare to be too hopeful.

G_G

but of course when they finally release it in Japan its gonna be awhile til it hits the US.

Starrodkirby86

It'll be released in Japan around the Fall of 2009. That means you'll expect this masterpiece to arrive in the Spring of 2010 on USA unless they delay it so.

The game is probably going to be like Diamond and Pearl in terms of gameplay. If you didn't like that, then uh oh~

I see this in a positive atmosphere and LOVE it.

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Mightylink

May 09, 2009, 01:58:45 am #7 Last Edit: May 09, 2009, 02:00:01 am by Mightylink
I was wondering when they where ganna do that. They remade red and blue into fire red and leaf green so they could trade pokemon with the gba games, all that was left was gold and silver, (and crystal but crysal is not needed), those where the only 2 games left that where impossible to trade pokemon.

So after this I guess it will be possible to get all 500 or so (sorry lost count) pokemon :) That is assuming the ds games trade with the gba games, never playing the ds ones im not sure.

Starrodkirby86

Actually Mightylink, you're able to obtain nearly the 493 Pokemon in Diamond/Pearl/Platinum without the need for migration (With exceptions of few, hence nearly).

After you beat the Elite Four and obtain the National Dex, there would be new Pokemon lying around that come up (Chances being higher) with the 'Pokeradar'. They're littered throughout Sinnoh. Some special Pokemon appear in the Trophy Garden during days of the week as well. Don't forget about the island in the back where there are special National Dex Pokemon. :) Finally, in Sandgem Town, every day there will be a special influx of a certain Pokemon at that route.

You can get all the Pokemon except for version exclusions, legendaries from previous generations, and starters, if I recall correctly.

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Kagutsuchi

Yay! Finally! My favorite pokemon games (Silver) gets an graphical upgrade =D And hopefully stuff like the 7 Islands in Fire Red and Leaf Green.

fugibo

Hmm, yumm. Silver was PWN. I had a really tough Typhlosion and Lugia (at the time, I prefered 1-2 uber strong pokemon to a few moderate ones)

Kagutsuchi

Quote from: Biker WcW on May 09, 2009, 06:52:56 am
Hmm, yumm. Silver was PWN. I had a really tough Typhlosion and Lugia (at the time, I prefered 1-2 uber strong pokemon to a few moderate ones)

My friend went for the same tactic, I kicked his ass thought :P

Lugia is the most awesome legendary pokemon ever <3 Normally I don't like to play with legendaries, but when I get Soul Silver I am so gonna do it!

fugibo

Lugia was. And it looked cool, too. Too bad it was impossible to get until XD.

jcsnider

I seriously doubt Nintendo will really go through with this, these rumors have been going on for about 3 years now... last time I saw these pics was about a week before Diamond/Peral came out in the US. If it is to come out I will definatly buy, Gold/Silver/Crystal were always my favorites. Although as I said before, I highly doubt it.

Kagutsuchi

May 09, 2009, 04:32:56 pm #14 Last Edit: May 09, 2009, 04:36:29 pm by Kagutsuchi
Quote from: Biker WcW on May 09, 2009, 11:05:38 am
Lugia was. And it looked cool, too. Too bad it was impossible to get until XD.

You can get Lugia in Pokemon Silver..

Quote from: jcsnider on May 09, 2009, 11:12:53 am
I seriously doubt Nintendo will really go through with this, these rumors have been going on for about 3 years now... last time I saw these pics was about a week before Diamond/Peral came out in the US. If it is to come out I will definatly buy, Gold/Silver/Crystal were always my favorites. Although as I said before, I highly doubt it.

Stop ruining my happiness :(
Silver is still the pokemon game I have had the most fun with.

(And btw, I am pretty sure it is true, because it is says on Serebii.net that Nintendo have announced it on the official pokemon webpage.. http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/game/g090508_01.html)

fugibo

Yes, but Silver had no compatibility with anything after it.

And I'm pretty sure it's real, too. Why wouldn't they do it?

Diokatsu

Quote from: Biker WcW on May 09, 2009, 05:08:27 pm
Yes, but Silver had no compatibility with anything after it.

And I'm pretty sure it's real, too. Why wouldn't they do it?

None of the other games could handle the epic.

fugibo

Quote from: Gym Leader Diokatsu on May 09, 2009, 05:28:30 pm
Quote from: Biker WcW on May 09, 2009, 05:08:27 pm
Yes, but Silver had no compatibility with anything after it.

And I'm pretty sure it's real, too. Why wouldn't they do it?

None of the other games could handle the epic.

Except, of course, XD/Coliseum. The sucky ones.

G_G

I really hope its a remake of the old ones. Just better graphics. But of course it'll probably end up having unneeded feattures like Diamon, Pearl, and Platinum. There were thigns in those games I didnt care for.

Vell

yeah. I'll get it, be uber excited, then end up beating the E4 and not playing it XD

Starrodkirby86

1st:
This is real. There will be more information about it tomorrow. All official Pokemon websites have it, so chances are the sources are verifiable. In fact, there's even the link leading to the official Pokemon website. It seems too good to be true, but it's really true.

2nd:
I'm sure they'll have a load of features. The radio system and the phone system are probably going to come back, more interesting than ever. Perhaps they won't make the Kanto region so limited as before. The Battle Tower nearby Olivine is definitely going to be there, or possibly even a Battle Frontier elsewhere.

Kind of obvious, but this is truly exciting.

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Vell

Hip Hip, HURRAY, Hip Hip, HURRAY!

I've been waiting for a Gold/Silver remake ever since Firered and Leafgreen back in '04.

Diokatsu

May 10, 2009, 12:51:37 am #22 Last Edit: May 10, 2009, 12:59:03 am by Elite Four Starrodkirby86
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Oh, here it is.

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Kagutsuchi

I hope they make it into a gba game so that I can import pokemon from it to my diamond :S (I don't have firered/leafgreen)

GAX

DAMN YOU SRK, YOU BEAT ME TO THE FINISH!

Anyways...I'd post a pic of my Crystal, but Ulta might weep...it's just too sad of a sight, my gold however is in near perfect condition ^_^

The one thing I'm expecting out of this is the ability to catch the ONLY legendary not to be widely released outside of Japan.  I am of course talking about everyone's favorite little time traveler, Celebi (Emerald had mew, and you can also get Mew through MyPokemon Ranch).

For fucks sakes, I'd love to see the old Pokegear make a comeback, though with the DS-shit...I mean DSi having its own SD card slot, it's possible it may have some form of MP3 player, though I really hope not because I really want to the DSi to just crawl into a little hole and die, it's a pathetic little system and -ends rant before this gets off topic...

Anyways...I've been waiting for this for quite a while, and I'll probably buy both in one run like I did with DP.  THIS THREAD GETS THE GAX SEAL OF EPICNESS FOR POKEMONTH, GO SRK!

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Gabbergon

not heard of it yet
i actually only hope there will be glitches!
(it would suck if there was no missingno :( )

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fugibo

I have my Red, Silver, and Yellow setting downstairs right now, all in mint condition. Yellow has Mew, Red has a Lvl 100 Charizard that is my only good pokemon, and Silver IDK about.

When I played through Red the first time, I couldn't figure out how to get into Saffron City, so I just walked around with my Charmander for a while fighting. Then my Charmeleon. Then my Charizard. Then my Lvl 60 Charizard. Then I was like, "Hey, what if I gave the thirsty guard water!"... and from that point on it was kinda easy.

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Lol... i figured about the water thing, and i was 5 and could barely read -_-".
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Looks like it'll be on the DS.

And it also looks like your Pokemon can follow you. But who knows what's going to come~

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fugibo

There's a lot of innovations they could make involving that. :/

Kagutsuchi

I just hope that they allow you to have 2 or more savegames :S Cause I like to bring along my pokemon game and restart it everytime I go on vacation, and use different pokemons than what I used the last time and such.. and that sort of ruins my plan of getting a full lvl 100 ev trained team with optimal nature and such..

Diokatsu

Quote from: Kagutsuchi on May 10, 2009, 03:45:39 pm
I just hope that they allow you to have 2 or more savegames :S Cause I like to bring along my pokemon game and restart it everytime I go on vacation, and use different pokemons than what I used the last time and such.. and that sort of ruins my plan of getting a full lvl 100 ev trained team with optimal nature and such..

Eliminate natures.

Also, I hate Pokemon.

Kagutsuchi

Quote from: Gym Leader Diokatsu on May 10, 2009, 03:52:46 pm
Quote from: Kagutsuchi on May 10, 2009, 03:45:39 pm
I just hope that they allow you to have 2 or more savegames :S Cause I like to bring along my pokemon game and restart it everytime I go on vacation, and use different pokemons than what I used the last time and such.. and that sort of ruins my plan of getting a full lvl 100 ev trained team with optimal nature and such..

Eliminate natures.

Also, I hate Pokemon.

Lol, Nature is for the truly hardcore only.

Also, don't come to this thread if you hate pokemon, or do you take a page straight out of the bible and say to yourself, love your enemies?

Vell


tSwitch

Quote from: Elite Four Starrodkirby86 on May 09, 2009, 12:07:56 am
It'll be released in Japan around the Fall of 2009. That means you'll expect this masterpiece to arrive in the Spring of 2010 on USA unless they delay it so.


expect it to arrive in Fall 2009 on my flash cart.
then I'll try it out a little in Japanese to see how well they did, and determine if I should buy it myself once it hits the shores.


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Starrodkirby86

I necropost.

3/14. Discuss.

Actually, all these months gave a lot of new information about this game, especially since the game has already been released in Japan for quite a while. I think it's high-time that this should be revamped...Er, more or less. *doesn't update opening post at the moment*

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Quote from: Starrodkirby86 on January 20, 2010, 06:21:15 pm
I necropost.

3/14. Discuss.

Actually, all these months gave a lot of new information about this game, especially since the game has already been released in Japan for quite a while. I think it's high-time that this should be revamped...Er, more or less. *doesn't update opening post at the moment*


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Diokatsu

Pokemon sucks. True story.

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fugibo

Quote from: Diokatsu on January 20, 2010, 09:28:32 pm
Pokemon sucks. True story.

Also, Tyrannitar.


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Landith

I'm actually interested in this as I've seen how the revamped red and blue(now leafgreen) and those were actually really good revamps considering the original versions.

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currently playing, full review to come soon.


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Landith

I agree with Dio.
The moment they brought Pokemon to the DS is the moment I stopped playing it :/
I mean why ruin it by making it 3D? The only good 3D game made by Pokemon was Pokemon Stadium 1 + 2.
I tried playing Heart Gold on DS today and I hated it... Literally hated it. It reminded me of Pokemon Pearl, which I also hated.
It just ran too slow. I'm used to GBA fire red where it was fast and I could run around and didn't have to wait a second for the character to actually move.
Oh well. Maybe they will make them for the Wii and make them 2D like in old days, then I will play them.
Also, I hate DSes. As simple as that.

Ryex

I don't think that it really all that bad...
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Quote from: Landith on March 12, 2010, 11:15:54 pm
I agree with Dio.
The moment they brought Pokemon to the DS is the moment I stopped playing it :/
I mean why ruin it by making it 3D? The only good 3D game made by Pokemon was Pokemon Stadium 1 + 2.
I tried playing Heart Gold on DS today and I hated it... Literally hated it. It reminded me of Pokemon Pearl, which I also hated.
It just ran too slow. I'm used to GBA fire red where it was fast and I could run around and didn't have to wait a second for the character to actually move.
Oh well. Maybe they will make them for the Wii and make them 2D like in old days, then I will play them.
Also, I hate DSes. As simple as that.

Not everything in the game is 3-D. It's really strange that they made it into that, but hey, one can get used to it~ The Mode7 feel is really good. I actually think the 3-D perspective seems pretty nice, though on the DS it doesn't look extremely pretty, haha. You can make some impressive cutscenes with that power, or beauty of it all.

Sure, walking is extremely slow, but the opportunities you can run around in the game has increased so much. It does make up for itself. Besides, get a bicycle as well. :X I'm getting this from the Diamond and Pearl games, so I don't know if you can really run anywhere in HG and SS. Also...playing on your DS? Using a flashcard?

They'll probably make more coliseum/stadium/3-D Battle related games, like Pokemon Battle Revolution...Sometime though. Speaking of which Battle Revolution was a disappointment, and there isn't anything that's living up to the classic Pokemon Stadium series.

Don't hate the DS. ;( ~

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Verdict: HG SS will never be the originals no matter how hard they try and no matter what they do, they most likely won't ever live up to the hype.

Ryex

well one thing is for sure they did an awesome job with the music in this game.
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Diokatsu

I like the originals, but whatever. I like chiptunes, so the lower the quality the cooler it seems to me.

Subsonic_Noise

Quote from: Gym Leader Diokatsu on March 13, 2010, 06:03:37 pm
I like the originals, but whatever. I like chiptunes, so the lower the quality the cooler it seems to me.

The original music was epic. Especially the bass in the trainer battle music.

Diokatsu

Quote from: Shiny Magikarp on March 13, 2010, 06:08:49 pm
Quote from: Gym Leader Diokatsu on March 13, 2010, 06:03:37 pm
I like the originals, but whatever. I like chiptunes, so the lower the quality the cooler it seems to me.

The original music was epic. Especially the bass in the trainer battle music.


So true. And Lance's fight. Holy shit.

Starrodkirby86

If you like the original music a lot, there's a Key Item in HG/SS that allows you to play the original chiptune music rather than the remade music.  :huh:

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Landith

I played it with a flash card and also on an Emu. Both were both too slow. Idk if the actual game is like that or what. I might buy it to see if it's that bad or not, but idk. Seems like it would be a waste of 35$ IMO.

Starrodkirby86

Oh, isn't that interesting.

Word on the street says Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver actually has some anti-piracy measures...The game freezes up periodically. Or something. That's the Japanese version, I don't know about the English one (Probably the same thing?).

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March 14, 2010, 04:32:30 am #57 Last Edit: March 14, 2010, 04:34:03 am by Elite Four NAMKCOR
Quote from: Starrodkirby86 on March 14, 2010, 01:59:48 am
Oh, isn't that interesting.

Word on the street says Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver actually has some anti-piracy measures...The game freezes up periodically. Or something. That's the Japanese version, I don't know about the English one (Probably the same thing?).


this, they're working on it.

also LOL @ all of the "HOW DARE THEY EMBRACE THE FUTURE AND MAKE POKEMON IN 3D" comments.  Because nobody should ever take advantage of new increases in technology and such, no way.

The game is fine.  They did a good job of taking the originals and bringing them to the new era.  Story is about the same, Pokemon are the same, you still get apricots and shit, the only difference is that you can be a girl (who looks like a country bumpkin) and it appears that they're running the whole dual-rivals thing again.

Seriously, they did a wonderful job of revising the two best ones to come out, I see nothing wrong with these ones that you can't fault the entire series for.

If you expected it to be exactly the same as the Gameboy Color versions, you set yourself up for disappointment.  OH GOD THEY MODIFIED IT INSTEAD OF MAKING IT EXACTLY THE SAME, BLASPHEMY!


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Landith

Yeah they do freeze up and run extremely slow. I'm going to have to actually buy it to see how it will be.

and the DS should never support 3D. Every game I have played on the DS that has 3D never runs smoothly. It's so annoying. I mean if they make it 3D it should be on the Wii, not the DS. But eh, just my opinion.

They did do a good job on the remake, but it still doesn't feel the same at all. Bad music, longer animations(makes the battles much slower imo), and that's all I got as I stopped at the first gym.

I didn't expect it to be exactly the same, but they should have at least stuck to the same principles of the game. I mean changing the appearance of it, alright I can deal with that. But it was so confusing at the start, like I didn't even know what I was suppose to do at the beginning(that might have been because it was still in Japanese though).

But I will go out on Monday and buy GoW III as well as this and tell ya'll what I think. You can just ignore this post right now as this is going off from the emu so yeah. I will even play through the whole game up until the elite four, even go back into pallet town as well(as I believe you can go into pallet town after you beat the elite four), then give my 2 cents. :D

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March 14, 2010, 06:42:45 am #59 Last Edit: March 14, 2010, 06:45:48 am by Elite Four NAMKCOR
Quote from: Landith on March 14, 2010, 06:01:58 am
Yeah they do freeze up and run extremely slow. I'm going to have to actually buy it to see how it will be.

and the DS should never support 3D. Every game I have played on the DS that has 3D never runs smoothly. It's so annoying. I mean if they make it 3D it should be on the Wii, not the DS. But eh, just my opinion.

They did do a good job on the remake, but it still doesn't feel the same at all. Bad music, longer animations(makes the battles much slower imo), and that's all I got as I stopped at the first gym.

I didn't expect it to be exactly the same, but they should have at least stuck to the same principles of the game. I mean changing the appearance of it, alright I can deal with that. But it was so confusing at the start, like I didn't even know what I was suppose to do at the beginning(that might have been because it was still in Japanese though).

But I will go out on Monday and buy GoW III as well as this and tell ya'll what I think. You can just ignore this post right now as this is going off from the emu so yeah. I will even play through the whole game up until the elite four, even go back into pallet town as well(as I believe you can go into pallet town after you beat the elite four), then give my 2 cents. :D


The english version is running fine, it's not slow so maybe your flash cart is just a load of shit.
Playing in japanese without knowing japanese is like asking to be confused.

Battle Anims: turn them off if they bug you, it's right in the options.
Music: get the GBC player and shut up.  Music is fine imo.

It ain't going to be the same game, they're bringing HG/SS to the new generation, it's basically just bringing back the old areas and old pokemon because they were fucking awesome, and adding the new-style spin to it.  I have no issues with this.  The core mechanics are the same, play Michael Vick with colorful animals and go to the hospital when they die faint.

Also I have yet to play a single 3d game on the DS that ran badly for me.  And I have been obsessing over Phantasy Star Zero and Kingdom Hearts 356/2 lately.


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fugibo

Yeah, 356/2 doesn't run perfectly, but it nearly rivals the PS2 at near flawless framerates. I wouldn't say that the DS is exactly weak.

Spoofus

well what flash card are you using if the game is running slow etc.
im using a ackard2 and with the AKAIO firmware from gbatemp and i have no troubles running ds games


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Quote from: Cool Trainer Spoofus on March 15, 2010, 09:45:20 am
well what flash card are you using if the game is running slow etc.
im using a ackard2 and with the AKAIO firmware from gbatemp and i have no troubles running ds games


I'm thinking of replacing mine with that since mine is having compatibility issues with some games.
is it worth it?


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Spoofus

sorry for the real late response i havnt had time to do much of anything but yeah i  think acekard2 or acekard2i(for dsi) with the AkAIO firmware is worth it...they just came out with another firmware updated the other day to work with SMT:Strange Journey which is a really good game i think


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Quote from: Cool Trainer Spoofus on March 27, 2010, 03:20:30 am
sorry for the real late response i havnt had time to do much of anything but yeah i  think acekard2 or acekard2i(for dsi) with the AkAIO firmware is worth it...they just came out with another firmware updated the other day to work with SMT:Strange Journey which is a really good game i think


friend of mine got me the 2i like a day after I posted that :p


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Subsonic_Noise

Well, I just bought the gane instead of using a flash card. That actually is a possibiblity too...

First impressions:
OMG, the graphics! OMG, the music! LOL, Magikarps!
...that's all.

tSwitch

Quote from: Shiny Magikarp on March 27, 2010, 02:05:43 pm
Well, I just bought the gane instead of using a flash card. That actually is a possibiblity too...


if I had the funds I probably would have.


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Quote from: Elite Four NAMKCOR on March 27, 2010, 03:40:43 pm
Quote from: Shiny Magikarp on March 27, 2010, 02:05:43 pm
Well, I just bought the gane instead of using a flash card. That actually is a possibiblity too...


if I had the funds I probably would have.

I put back some money over the last few months to get it. It's not like I'm rich or anything.
Also, I don't get games when I don't have money. I don't judge you, though, to each their own or something.

Ryex

I've been considering getting a flashcard. what ones would you recommend and where would you recommend I get one?
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WhiteRose

Acekard 2i really is the best model on the market for its price. There are some that have built in memory, but it's not worth the extra cost. You can get a 2i for around $25.

Spoofus

yeah i would get acekard2i too it should work find for ds lite etc. i order a acekard 2i a few days ago but yeah i would go for a ackard2i like WhiteRose said


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I wish my DS was still working. I've gone through two of them with exactly the same motherboard fault, and I'd love to be playing Soul Silver right now.  :(
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