PKMN : Heart Gold + Soul Silver

Started by Starrodkirby86, May 08, 2009, 08:12:26 pm

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Quote from: Starrodkirby86 on January 20, 2010, 06:21:15 pm
I necropost.

3/14. Discuss.

Actually, all these months gave a lot of new information about this game, especially since the game has already been released in Japan for quite a while. I think it's high-time that this should be revamped...Er, more or less. *doesn't update opening post at the moment*


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Diokatsu

Pokemon sucks. True story.

Also, Tyrannitar.

fugibo

Quote from: Diokatsu on January 20, 2010, 09:28:32 pm
Pokemon sucks. True story.

Also, Tyrannitar.


This is why you always get my vote for despot of the month

Landith

I'm actually interested in this as I've seen how the revamped red and blue(now leafgreen) and those were actually really good revamps considering the original versions.

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currently playing, full review to come soon.


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Landith

I agree with Dio.
The moment they brought Pokemon to the DS is the moment I stopped playing it :/
I mean why ruin it by making it 3D? The only good 3D game made by Pokemon was Pokemon Stadium 1 + 2.
I tried playing Heart Gold on DS today and I hated it... Literally hated it. It reminded me of Pokemon Pearl, which I also hated.
It just ran too slow. I'm used to GBA fire red where it was fast and I could run around and didn't have to wait a second for the character to actually move.
Oh well. Maybe they will make them for the Wii and make them 2D like in old days, then I will play them.
Also, I hate DSes. As simple as that.

Ryex

I don't think that it really all that bad...
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Starrodkirby86

Quote from: Landith on March 12, 2010, 11:15:54 pm
I agree with Dio.
The moment they brought Pokemon to the DS is the moment I stopped playing it :/
I mean why ruin it by making it 3D? The only good 3D game made by Pokemon was Pokemon Stadium 1 + 2.
I tried playing Heart Gold on DS today and I hated it... Literally hated it. It reminded me of Pokemon Pearl, which I also hated.
It just ran too slow. I'm used to GBA fire red where it was fast and I could run around and didn't have to wait a second for the character to actually move.
Oh well. Maybe they will make them for the Wii and make them 2D like in old days, then I will play them.
Also, I hate DSes. As simple as that.

Not everything in the game is 3-D. It's really strange that they made it into that, but hey, one can get used to it~ The Mode7 feel is really good. I actually think the 3-D perspective seems pretty nice, though on the DS it doesn't look extremely pretty, haha. You can make some impressive cutscenes with that power, or beauty of it all.

Sure, walking is extremely slow, but the opportunities you can run around in the game has increased so much. It does make up for itself. Besides, get a bicycle as well. :X I'm getting this from the Diamond and Pearl games, so I don't know if you can really run anywhere in HG and SS. Also...playing on your DS? Using a flashcard?

They'll probably make more coliseum/stadium/3-D Battle related games, like Pokemon Battle Revolution...Sometime though. Speaking of which Battle Revolution was a disappointment, and there isn't anything that's living up to the classic Pokemon Stadium series.

Don't hate the DS. ;( ~

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Diokatsu

Verdict: HG SS will never be the originals no matter how hard they try and no matter what they do, they most likely won't ever live up to the hype.

Ryex

well one thing is for sure they did an awesome job with the music in this game.
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Diokatsu

I like the originals, but whatever. I like chiptunes, so the lower the quality the cooler it seems to me.

Subsonic_Noise

Quote from: Gym Leader Diokatsu on March 13, 2010, 06:03:37 pm
I like the originals, but whatever. I like chiptunes, so the lower the quality the cooler it seems to me.

The original music was epic. Especially the bass in the trainer battle music.

Diokatsu

Quote from: Shiny Magikarp on March 13, 2010, 06:08:49 pm
Quote from: Gym Leader Diokatsu on March 13, 2010, 06:03:37 pm
I like the originals, but whatever. I like chiptunes, so the lower the quality the cooler it seems to me.

The original music was epic. Especially the bass in the trainer battle music.


So true. And Lance's fight. Holy shit.

Starrodkirby86

If you like the original music a lot, there's a Key Item in HG/SS that allows you to play the original chiptune music rather than the remade music.  :huh:

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Landith

I played it with a flash card and also on an Emu. Both were both too slow. Idk if the actual game is like that or what. I might buy it to see if it's that bad or not, but idk. Seems like it would be a waste of 35$ IMO.

Starrodkirby86

Oh, isn't that interesting.

Word on the street says Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver actually has some anti-piracy measures...The game freezes up periodically. Or something. That's the Japanese version, I don't know about the English one (Probably the same thing?).

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March 14, 2010, 04:32:30 am #57 Last Edit: March 14, 2010, 04:34:03 am by Elite Four NAMKCOR
Quote from: Starrodkirby86 on March 14, 2010, 01:59:48 am
Oh, isn't that interesting.

Word on the street says Pokemon Heart Gold/Soul Silver actually has some anti-piracy measures...The game freezes up periodically. Or something. That's the Japanese version, I don't know about the English one (Probably the same thing?).


this, they're working on it.

also LOL @ all of the "HOW DARE THEY EMBRACE THE FUTURE AND MAKE POKEMON IN 3D" comments.  Because nobody should ever take advantage of new increases in technology and such, no way.

The game is fine.  They did a good job of taking the originals and bringing them to the new era.  Story is about the same, Pokemon are the same, you still get apricots and shit, the only difference is that you can be a girl (who looks like a country bumpkin) and it appears that they're running the whole dual-rivals thing again.

Seriously, they did a wonderful job of revising the two best ones to come out, I see nothing wrong with these ones that you can't fault the entire series for.

If you expected it to be exactly the same as the Gameboy Color versions, you set yourself up for disappointment.  OH GOD THEY MODIFIED IT INSTEAD OF MAKING IT EXACTLY THE SAME, BLASPHEMY!


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Landith

Yeah they do freeze up and run extremely slow. I'm going to have to actually buy it to see how it will be.

and the DS should never support 3D. Every game I have played on the DS that has 3D never runs smoothly. It's so annoying. I mean if they make it 3D it should be on the Wii, not the DS. But eh, just my opinion.

They did do a good job on the remake, but it still doesn't feel the same at all. Bad music, longer animations(makes the battles much slower imo), and that's all I got as I stopped at the first gym.

I didn't expect it to be exactly the same, but they should have at least stuck to the same principles of the game. I mean changing the appearance of it, alright I can deal with that. But it was so confusing at the start, like I didn't even know what I was suppose to do at the beginning(that might have been because it was still in Japanese though).

But I will go out on Monday and buy GoW III as well as this and tell ya'll what I think. You can just ignore this post right now as this is going off from the emu so yeah. I will even play through the whole game up until the elite four, even go back into pallet town as well(as I believe you can go into pallet town after you beat the elite four), then give my 2 cents. :D

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March 14, 2010, 06:42:45 am #59 Last Edit: March 14, 2010, 06:45:48 am by Elite Four NAMKCOR
Quote from: Landith on March 14, 2010, 06:01:58 am
Yeah they do freeze up and run extremely slow. I'm going to have to actually buy it to see how it will be.

and the DS should never support 3D. Every game I have played on the DS that has 3D never runs smoothly. It's so annoying. I mean if they make it 3D it should be on the Wii, not the DS. But eh, just my opinion.

They did do a good job on the remake, but it still doesn't feel the same at all. Bad music, longer animations(makes the battles much slower imo), and that's all I got as I stopped at the first gym.

I didn't expect it to be exactly the same, but they should have at least stuck to the same principles of the game. I mean changing the appearance of it, alright I can deal with that. But it was so confusing at the start, like I didn't even know what I was suppose to do at the beginning(that might have been because it was still in Japanese though).

But I will go out on Monday and buy GoW III as well as this and tell ya'll what I think. You can just ignore this post right now as this is going off from the emu so yeah. I will even play through the whole game up until the elite four, even go back into pallet town as well(as I believe you can go into pallet town after you beat the elite four), then give my 2 cents. :D


The english version is running fine, it's not slow so maybe your flash cart is just a load of shit.
Playing in japanese without knowing japanese is like asking to be confused.

Battle Anims: turn them off if they bug you, it's right in the options.
Music: get the GBC player and shut up.  Music is fine imo.

It ain't going to be the same game, they're bringing HG/SS to the new generation, it's basically just bringing back the old areas and old pokemon because they were fucking awesome, and adding the new-style spin to it.  I have no issues with this.  The core mechanics are the same, play Michael Vick with colorful animals and go to the hospital when they die faint.

Also I have yet to play a single 3d game on the DS that ran badly for me.  And I have been obsessing over Phantasy Star Zero and Kingdom Hearts 356/2 lately.


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