The arguement stemmed from a certain someone saying books are more epic than Elizibethian English. Which of course Dio took it a step further and assumed the comparison is between language in general and books in general. In this kind of arguement, there is no winner. Merely because there is no simple, one is better than the other answer. Sadly enough, I understand both of the viewpoints. And yes, in a sense you both are arguing different debates. How? Ulta is comparing Books in general to Elizibethian while Dio is arguing books in general with language in general.